Re: Bug#797533: New CTTE members
On Sep 09 2015, Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 05:30:03PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
>
>> So what I learned from this is that, as currently operating, the
>> committee is incapable of making quick 'overrule unreasonableness'
>> decisions. My overriding impression was that those involved simply did
>> not have the time available that would be be needed to enable that.
>
> No, what you see here is that the TC did not agree with you that the
> maintainer's action was unambiguously unreasonable under the
> circumstances.
Is that disagreement captured somewhere? Looking at #766708, the bug was
filed on Oct 26th and from then until Dec 16th (at which point it was
too late for jessie) we have the following emails from ctte members:
- one email from Don asking Matthias for more information (but he got no
reply).
- one email from Ian (who, according to his later emails was certainly
not opposed to overwriting the maintainer)
- One question from Colin that I can't interpret as either agreement or
disagreement, but it was answered by Wookey and got no further
response.
- One skeptical question from Don on Nov 19th
- Another email from Don about long-term consequences that he explicitly
says is not related to the jessie decision
So the only mail that could be interpreted to signal disagreement in the
ctte is this one:
,----
| From: Don Armstrong <don@debian.org>
| To: Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de>, 766708@bugs.debian.org, Debian GCC Maintainers <debian-gcc@lists.debian.org>, wookey@debian.org
| Subject: Re: Bug#766708: Processed: Re: Bug#766708: breaks multiarch cross building
| Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 16:41:49 -0800
|
| On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, Helmut Grohne wrote:
| > I have to admit that the code is not exactly lightweight. I do
| > understand the desire to get rid it and asked that a ctte ruling does
| > not apply beyond jessie for that reason.
|
| Are people who are doing cross-building like this actually using the
| code which will be in jessie? I (perhaps naïvely) would expect them to
| be primarily using the code in unstable, and maybe at a late stage of
| bring-up rebuilding all of stable.
`----
Note that only three members of the ctte actually voiced anything at
all. To me this looks a lot more like the ctte not having enough time
rather than the ctte being stuck in some intractable technical
disagreement that prevents them from taking any action.
Best,
-Nikolaus
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