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Bug#765803: Bug#762194: On automatic init system switching on upgrade



Hi,

[ Replying to the bug. ]

On 11/20/2014 06:27 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> writes:
>>> Speaking personally, without specific patches which have been discussed
>>> with the maintainers of the init package and well tested, I'm unlikely
>>> to vote any resolution on this issue above FD.
>>
>> Does this include the "no change is required" option?
> 
> I don't think we have such an option even proposed. [Or even, any
> options.] I'd probably be OK with an option which punted back to
> maintainers to figure things out in the absence of real options. That's
> technically no different than FD, but maybe effectively different.

Past decisions to not overrule maintainers did not end with "further
discussion".

So I suggest a

    The technical committee declines to override the init system
    maintainers on the question of switching init systems on an
    upgrade to Jessie.

option.

(Note: I say init system maintainers as both sysvinit and the new init
 meta package are involved.)

>> I would prefer if we did not end in perpetual further discussion until
>> the freeze is over.
> 
> I don't think using CTTE powers to try to prejudge something like this
> for all un-proposed options is acceptable. Further discussion may be
> annoying, but even if the CTTE were to decide, we'd still be discussing.

Hmm? I don't think this is different from past issues that ended with
declining to overrule people.

My main point is that it would be nice to have this issue resolved soon
given that Jessie is already frozen. And given there was no proposal how
to implement the no-switch option to even discuss, I suggest the simple
no-override solution from above.

Ansgar


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