Bug#727708: Call for votes on init system resolution
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:42:13AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Andreas Barth <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> > * Russ Allbery (email@example.com) [140207 02:09]:
> >> I also flatly disagree with Adrian over whether we're deadlocked. I
> >> don't see any point in discussing it, though.
> > I agree with you, I don't see any reason why we are deadlocked. If we
> > want to do yet another round on improving texts this is fine for me,
> > but should be finished soon. And the following vote should really be
> > finished, and I expect an outcome from the votes and statements I have
> > seeing so far.
> Just to be very clear here, I do believe that we're deadlocked, even
> though I expect the resolution process to be able to spit out a decision.
> I don't mean deadlocked in the sense that Condorcet will fail, but rather
> deadlock in the sense that the preferences above FD will result in a tie
> and the question will be decided by casting vote.
> I consider deciding the question by casting vote to be synonymous with
> being deadlocked, since the whole point of a casting vote is to break
> deadlocks. I realize, in retrospect, that this may be an idiosyncratic
> use of the term "deadlock" and that other people thought I meant that no
> option would get a majority above FD.
> The casting vote is the process we have, and the process that everyone
> agreed to. But I must say that I'm personally quite uncomfortable with
> deciding an issue of this magnitude by casting vote.
Thanks for the explanation, that explains where I misunderstood you.
You are right that there is no clear majority for any option.
But after all the hefty debates I was positively surprised to see that
it might be possible that the winner is acceptable for all TC members
(IOW: beats FD 8:0).
IMHO a 4:4 decision with casting vote where 4 members consider the
result as a second best but acceptable solution is better than
e.g. a 5:3 decision with 3 TC members vehemently opposing the result.
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