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Bug#727708: Vote sysvinit 4 jessie

Michael Gilbert <mgilbert@debian.org> writes:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
>> Michael Gilbert writes:
>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
>>>> So all deferring for another cycle does is leave Debian with annoying
>>>> cumbersome init scripts and unsolvable race conditions for another cycle.
>>> Which have already been solved for a long time now.
>> No, they haven't. Try eg. various combinations of layering md-raid,
>> cryptsetup, lvm and btrfs on top of each other. If you feel particularly
>> adventurous, add some storage devices that take minutes to initialize or
>> need a working network connection (disclaimer: I haven't personally
>> tried the latter, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to make things work
>> better).
> For use cases like this where sysvinit is insufficient, the user can
> use init-select or whatever to use a newer init that does handle this
> better.

You are not making sense to me. You claimed that race conditions and
bugs in sysvinit have been solved. They have not been solved. So now you
are claiming that *because better init systems exist*, these bugs do not
matter and we should stick with sysvinit?

End of discussion for me here.


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