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Re: CTTE and Developer Buy-in [Re: Bug#727708: init system other points, and conclusion]



On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 01:09:27PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Colin Watson writes ("Re: CTTE and Developer Buy-in [Re: Bug#727708: init system other points, and conclusion]"):
> > Is there any useful way we could take a reasonably quick non-binding
> > straw poll of developers?  Sort of an "if we voted a particular way, is
> > it likely that we would be on the wrong side of developer opinion".
> 
> I think this is very unlikely to produce useful answers.  Non-binding
> polls have the serious problem that everyone knows they're not
> binding, so many people will simply not bother.  And the result of
> such an exercise is likely to influence our thinking more than it
> ought.
> 
> In this context I want to say again thata I think that direct
> democracy is a terrible way to make a technical decision.  Our
> thousands of contributors don't have the time to do the reading and
> research needed to make a good decision.
> 
> And, despite the fact that the decision has become very politicised
> (to some extent along the lines of preexisting camps of strongly
> disagreeing contributors), I think it is primarily a technical
> decision.

Perhaps you're right.  I guess I'm trying to get a sense of how many
people there are who have made a considered technical evaluation but who
haven't felt it worth wading into the giant mail threads.  But maybe
that's simply infeasible.

> If the vast majority of developers hate our decision, the GR process
> would be the right way to fix it.  In that case finding K Developers
> to sponsor the GR would be trivial.
> 
> Obviously that would be embarrassing for us and substantially damage
> our credibility.  But I don't think it's at all likely.  Do you ?

I don't know.  That's part of what I'd like to find out. :-)  My concern
is not so much embarrassment as wasting the project's time and
democratic effort unnecessarily.

-- 
Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@debian.org]


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