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CTTE and Developer Buy-in [Re: Bug#727708: init system other points, and conclusion]

On Wed, 01 Jan 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> Personally, I wish the TC was a bit more careful with the «people»
> angle of their rulings.

I'm personally very concerned about the developers whose decisions we
are overriding or mediating. But we probably don't convey this well


> and I think it'd be a shame if we ended up losing or demotivating a
> good bunch of good developers again.

Pretty much every time the CTTE makes a ruling, someone is going to be
annoyed or demotivated. Easy, non-contentious decisions never make it to

If there are concrete ways we can be better at making sure that it's
clear developers concerns are being heard and taken into account which
we are not already doing, I'd certainly like to hear them.

That said, I don't think that it's reasonable for the CTTE to make
decisions which are not technically sound (or avoid making decisions at
all) purely to avoid hurting anyone's feelings. Moreover, I strongly
believe that developers in Debian are capable of taking whatever
decision the CTTE arrives at and making Debian be the most excellent
distribution it can be.

Don Armstrong                      http://www.donarmstrong.com

Something the junk advertisers don't seem to understand: we live in an
information super-saturated world. If I don't want to buy something,
no amount of shouting or propagandizing will budge me; all it will do
is get me annoyed. On the other hand, if I have a need for your
product, I can seek it out in an eyeblink.
 -- Charles Stross "Toast: A Con Report" in _Toast_ p136

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