Your message dated Fri, 25 May 2012 18:51:07 +0100 with message-id <[🔎] 20415.50827.560713.850742@chiark.greenend.org.uk> and subject line Re: Bug#665851: Bug#597050: GNU parallel, name conflict with moreutils has caused the Debian Bug report #665851, regarding GNU parallel, name conflict with moreutils to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact owner@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 665851: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665851 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact owner@bugs.debian.org with problems
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- Subject: GNU parallel, name conflict with moreutils
- From: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:24:31 +0100
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Package: debian-ctte For quite a while we have had a program in moreutils called /usr/bin/parallel. More recently, we have had a new "parallel" program which has become a GNU project, and which for compatibility would like to own /usr/bin/parallel. The two programs have similar purposes. The GNU one is more featureful; indeed, nowadays it has an emulation mode, controllable via an initial command line option and a configuration file, which can make it compatible with the moreutils one. #518696 (BCC'd) is the ITP for GNU parallel. #597050 (BCC'd) is a request to the moreutils maintainer to remove moreutils's parallel. The viable answers to the key question would appear to be: A. /usr/bin/parallel should be GNU parallel. B. /usr/bin/parallel should be moreutils parallel. C. The two programs should Conflict. D. Neither program may use this name. Everything else will follows from one of these options. Some might say D is forbidden by Policy and that C is mandated but this would seem perverse given that the two programs have similar functionality and invocation - they're not unrelated in intent, even if they are unrelated in code. Anyway we currently have no process for enforcing D against a maintainer who simply fails to get around to doing their part, so would really need a TC decision. My view is that GNU parallel should win, particularly given that it's a successful upstream project, being actively developed, and has various compatibility features to ease the transition. This is no worse a compatibility problem than when we have switched between different programs on previous occasions. I would like to bring this matter to the TC. If the committee agrees with my preferred outcome, I think the transition would look something like this: 1. GNU parallel is uploaded with "Replaces: moreutils (<< CURRENT)" 2. moreutils is uploaded with /usr/bin/parallel removed, and transitionally "Recommends: parallel" added (dependency strength to be determined by the moreutils maintainer); this may need to be an NMU. Ian.
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- To: "Georgios M. Zarkadas" <georgios.zarkadas@gmail.com>, 665851-done@bugs.debian.org, 665851@bugs.debian.org
- Cc: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
- Subject: Re: Bug#665851: Bug#597050: GNU parallel, name conflict with moreutils
- From: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
- Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:51:07 +0100
- Message-id: <[🔎] 20415.50827.560713.850742@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
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Georgios M. Zarkadas writes ("Bug#665851: Bug#597050: GNU parallel, name conflict with moreutils"): > just FYI, GNU parallel is already in Wheezy, in a way that does not > conflict with moreutils (cf. the last messages in Bug#518696). Excellent, thanks. I'm closing 665851 then. Ian.
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