On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 11:50:50PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > (And > > once the release team had finally found an slot for python-defaults > > pointing to 2.6 in unstable Matthias did an upload quite fast - as it > > should be.) > ah so the maintainership is reduced to a "please release a new > package" button? :) what you describe it ALL that he did for the > transition. I don't call it helping, I call it passive blocking it, > personally I'd expect more from him: are you really fine with a > "superb" maintainer not "wasting" his time in collaboration and with a > debian-python environment that it's forced to do all the work because > it really cares about python? I'm not, sorry. There is a pattern here of asserting that, where Matthias' maintenance of Python has not met the expectations of others in the Debian Python community, it is because he does not "care". This does not encourage the named developer to value working with you. Consider that Matthias has been a Debian developer for over 12 years. If you had been involved in a community project for this long, how would you respond to people claiming that you don't care about the quality of your contributions to it? You might not respond with silence, but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't respond favorably. And you probably wouldn't regard those people as colleagues that you want to work more closely with. When I see people making such a claim about other developers, I give less weight to their opinions. Particularly in the midst of a discussion about whether Matthias is willing to accept comaintainers on his packages, my immediate reaction is: of /course/ he doesn't want to have /you/ as a comaintainer! And as a result, I'm less inclined to think you're a suitable maintainer for the package. What the python packages in Debian need above all is people who will rise above the past conflicts instead of perpetuating them with an equal but opposite bias. That means, for instance, that I would make an unsuitable comaintainer for Python, because I'm very, very bitter about how the Python policy discussions have played out in the years since the BoF in Mexico, and there are more people to share in the blame for that than just Matthias. Fortunately, the TC doesn't have to be wise enough to be good maintainers for the python package, though - just wise enough to pick someone /else/ to be good maintainers... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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