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Re: Bug#573745: Please decide on Python interpreter packages maintainership



Hi Russ,

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 00:12, Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote:
> Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> writes:
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 23:50, Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> wrote:
>>> Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> I'm disturbed by the tone of some of the recent traffic which seems to
>>>> imply that Matthias must either personally respond to people's e-mail
>>>> or be completely removed from any role with the Python packages in
>>>> order for this complaint to be satisfied.
>
>> well, prior than 9 months ago, he was the only one maintainer the whole
>> python stack in debian, so yes, I'd except a personal reply from him
>> when a python discussion is run on debian-python@l.d.o or highlight on
>> IRC; but that didn't happened so often, decreasing by time.
>
> Yes, but that's about what you expected then, when he was the sole
> maintainer.  I think there's general agreement in the discussion here that
> Python should have some co-maintainers.
>
> My point is that, *given the addition of co-maintainers* (which I agree
> would be important), if Matthias then wants to go heads-down on his
> technical work and not engage in some or all of the debates, I'm not sure
> that poses an ongoing problem provided that his co-maintainers do the
> other work required to maintain the packages and he doesn't stand in their
> way.  And if that's the case, I don't think the requirement that he either
> reply or stop being on the maintenance team is well-defended.

Ok, probably I didn't express myself clearly enough. you are talking
about the future, when python will have co-maintainers
(python*-default already has them), am I correct? I was referring
instead to the current situation where python*-default has
co-maintainers while python interpreter packages still has not. It
seems to me that Matthias is still the key to make the architecture
works, since he controls interpreters and co-control (horrible
expression) the *-default, so without his ack (and so public
discussion when needed) we are stuck.

> There has been a lot of long-term bickering and heated words over Python
> in Debian, and from what I've seen that's spilled over into debian-devel,
> I'm very reluctant to put the weight of that problem on one party.

Probably it's also my fault in hoping things would have solved by
themselves and I've brought this to the CTTE too late, but please also
consider I've joined the debian-python after the 2006 (and like me
many others), so where all the problem origins tracks back. But the
problem is still actual, I think.

Regards,
-- 
Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/
Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi


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