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Re: Bug#436093: Please decide on the "ownership" of the developers reference

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:46:01 -0700, Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> said: 

> On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 03:08:02PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

>> > 13:00 <buxy> sorry, you have no ownership on that package 13:00
>> > <aba> I disagree.  13:00 <aba> and that is documented.

>> <buxy> you removed me without asking <aba> I didn't remove you.
>> <buxy>
>> http://cvs.debian.org/ddp/manuals.sgml/developers-reference/debian/control?root=debian-doc&r1=1.23&r2=1.24&diff_format=h

> Andi, this looks like a fair point to me.  If we're going to treat
> this as a question of who has the "right" to be maintainer of the
> package, then Raphaël also has some claim that you hijacked the
> package first.  (You mention that you talked to "people who were doing
> lots of QA" -- but did you run this by the debian-qa mailing list so
> that there's a public record of the discussion and an opportunity for
> comments, and did you try at the time to contact the people that were
> listed as Uploaders?)

        I was not contacted at the time my name was removed from the
 uploaders list.

>> > >    As for Raphaël adding himself to the Uploaders: field, I have
>> > >    no
>> > > particular opinion about it. I suggest discussing it within the
>> > > team, too, and either reverting the change, or reaching a common
>> > > agreement about upload rules (which I would obviously prefer).

>> > The "team" currently consists of me.

>> That's not what the "Maintainer" field says. And the unix group
>> associated is 'cvs_doc'.

> Raphaël, surely you're aware that there are many packages which give
> mailing lists as the maintainer, without implying that everyone
> subscribed to that mailing list is implicitly part of the "team"?
> (Moreover, haven't you said that you aren't/weren't subscribed to
> -doc, which implies that if the Maintainer field determines who the
> team is, you're not part of it anyway?)

        But, since the team of one was done merely by uploading a
 package with a changed uploaders field, one can argue the team has been
 expanded by uploading a package again with a different uploaders
 field -- unless there is a difference between these two uploads
 changing the Uploaders fields that I am missing?

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Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>
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