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Re: status of debian-consultants mailing list

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:30:04 +0000 (UTC), Martin Wheeler <msw@startext.demon.co.uk> said: 

> That is a *personal* opinion; and as far as I'm concerned, it's
> arrogant, blinkered, dogmatic and unjustified.  (OK?  You have every
> right to express opinions like that -- //you have no right
> whatsoever to speak in the name of the group.// As far as I'm aware.
> Apparently it takes eighteen months+ these days to get nominated to
> a position where that type of arrogance is accepted as being the
> norm -- I hope you're not going to suggest that this group adopt the
> same sort of nonsense as is prevalent in the NM selection
> procedures, and ensuing attitudinal behaviour?)

	Looking at the archives, it does seem to me that Josip is
 correct. I don't see many on topic mails on this list (and this
 current discussion is not really about debian consulting either).

	Foaming at the mouth really is not condusive to convincing
 other people. 

> As you should be able to tell, you've got me really angry on this
> issue -- there are more people than just you subscribed to this
> list; many have voiced their opinion that the list serves a useful
> purpose for them; yet you wilfully choose to ignore them.  Why?
> What sort of power trip are you on?  Who asked you speak on behalf
> of the group -- worse, even -- ACT on behalf of the group?  What's
> your overall aim?

	Opinions do not count for as much as facts do. If tis is
 really serving a useful purpose, where is the traffic? Mailing lists
 are meant to be used to, err, mail messages on.

> As a concerned individual, I propose that the rest of us just ignore
> Joy's present unwarranted debian-consultant-bashing mood, and get on
> with what we do on a day-to-day basis -- debian consulting.

	No one has stopped that, you know. And given that no one
 needed tis list to do the day to day thing for the last year or so,
 removing this list shall no way hinder that noble goal, neh?

> In the interim, I'm calling for a vote by members of this list, to
> be held on this list, on the question:

	Since when has Debian made technical decisions by voting? And
 this is a technical decision: when a mailing list falls into disuse
 (based on numbers of on topic mail messages), we remove the mailing

	This is precisely the kind of decision that we have list
 masters for.

It is better to have loved and lost -- much better.
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