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Re: status of debian-consultants mailing list

Hi everyone,

As a previously silent observer I fail to see what all the fuss is
about, I don't care if a piece of spam slips through, but I think this
list is vital to the existance of Debian.  It demonstrates that there
is a component of Debian professionals willing to discuss consulting
on a professional level, even if we have no comment at present.  If it
disappears, the image of Debian becomes less commercially viable.
Therefore I'm quite happy to be on the list through the quiet times,
with an expectation of better to come.

To continue pushing for its removal is sort of like trying to
persuade everyone that professional consulting for Debian is being

It was pretty clear to me that the people were quite willing and
able to participate further after the last time someone tried to ask
for its removal.  The feedback appeared to be overwhelmingly positive
to keep the list running.  I tried to get around to replying to some
of the ideas that came up but found myself personally too busy at the
time, this won't always be the case.

Why don't the people who don't believe it needs to exist anymore
simply unsubscribe? (Not trying to be rude, just seems logical to me).

(Consultant, Perth, Western Australia)

> Hopefully, I can squeeze this in just prior to list deletion.  
> For everyone who is interested in a general linux consultants list,
> one exists.  We started a linux consultants luncheon group in my neck
> of the woods, and, of course, a mailing list, which has since grown to
> include international membership.  
> You can join at: 
> linux-consultants mailing list
> linux-consultants@softorchestra.com
> http://www.softorchestra.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-consultants
> We don't really have a home on the web, but more than one subgroup of
> people on the list meets for good food and good conversation near
> their physical homes once a month.
> -Rich
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:51:31PM +0100, Richard Watson wrote:
> > > In any case, I think we've all made the effort now. So the big
> > > question is....
> > > 
> > > Have we saved the list?
> > 
> > You're making it sound like it's about something that wishes to be saved
> > -- heck, about something that has the capacity of wishing to be saved! :)
> > 
> > What some people seem to have missed is that I'm not saying that there's no
> > reason at all to have this list ever. I am saying that right now, no such
> > reason is making itself obvious and the list is practically useless.
> > 
> > Someone said that the cost of keeping is negligible -- sure, but each time
> > our filters don't catch a spam, it gets disseminated to over 400 people.
> > There's justification for a lax anti-spam system with high S/N ratio lists,
> > but here I can't seem to see it.
> > 
> > Note also that a list (including its current subscriber list) can be saved
> > for future reuse.
> > 
> > In conclusion, I'm afraid the inevitable deletion is only being postponed.
> > (And this very post is helping that, even. Damn. :)
> > 
> > 
> -- 
> Rich Bodo | rsb@ostel.com | 650-964-4678
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