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Re: Debian Images on Amazon Web Services (resent)



On 11/08/2012 09:41 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 09:27:07PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 11/08/2012 05:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>>> My general take on this is that, if we have users interested in running
>>> Debian on public clouds, we should support them.
>> These AMI images should be released through the official Debian mirrors,
>> or at least from a page on Alioth, not only from Amazon itself.
> From the point of view of communication, I see nothing in your mail that
> contradicts the public position I've tried to outline in my previous
> message. But at the same time it highlights how important will be the
> way we communicate about this issue! I'll take good care of sharing on
> this list the draft announcements, so that you and everyone else could
> comment before we send it out (the fact we are going to do this is not a
> news anymore anyhow, so there is no need for particular secrecy here).
>
> However, the aspect of having the AMIs on the mirrors is more delicate.
> I personally agree with the principle you've mentioned above: images
> should be on the mirrors, but we need someone working on that, as it
> won't magically happen per se.
>
> I think two questions are relevant here:
>
> - image proliferation: it is one thing to say we want to mirror one kind
>   of Debian images, it is a different matter to say that for every
>   public cloud out there we will do the same. Someone need to step in,
>   evaluate how many different images we think will be needed in the long
>   run and do a sort of "impact analysis" on mirror size
>
> - someone needs to work with the mirror people, asking them how do they
>   feel about mirroring images (depending on the analysis done above),
>   deciding the work-flow between the image preparation and the mirrors,
>   etc.
>
> Unless someone volunteers for the above, we won't advance a bit.
>
> In the meantime, I personally don't think the absence of images from the
> mirror networks should block the publishing of images on the relevant
> clouds.
>
> So, any takers?
I'd be happy to work on that, but in few months, right now I'm busy
on Openstack itself. Also, IMO, in an ideal world, the images should
go together with the CD images repositories, and if possible their
build script should be integrated in the Debian CD build process.

Cheers,

Thomas


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