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Re: 10.9 planning

On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 04:07:59PM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 12:24:45PM +0000, Adam Barratt wrote:
>>Hi Steve,
>>On Fri, 2021-03-19 at 11:42 +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>> Houston, we have a problem. I know that you've announced the 27th for
>>> the point release, but we're not going to have a new shim ready for
>>> then.
>>> We've been hard at work testing and fixing things for the last couple
>>> of weeks, but it's been slow going.  We've *just* had a 15.3-rc3
>>> release candidate published last night. Even if that all looks OK and
>>> we don't find any more bugs in testing (fingers crossed!), we're not
>>> going to have a proper 15.3 release ready to go for
>>> review/testing/signing in time for it to make it into a buster point
>>> release next weekend.
>>Thanks for the update. :-(
>>Do you have a sense of when things _might_ be ready? Depending on
>>timings it might be worth us getting the bulk of 10.9 out of the way
>>and working out what to do about shim later on.
>At this point, I do not have a lot of confidence to pick a reliable
>substitute date. Once we have a 15.3 release *done*, I'm thinking
>adding a couple of weeks after that point is probably the most
>sensible thing we can do. That's enough notice for the teams, I hope?
>And it will be enough time to get stuff reviewed and signed. I'll be
>one of the people driving the review process, and the reviews for this
>round should be minimal - we'll be using a totally vanilla new release
>with no local patches.
>I'll keep you updated as soon as i have any news.

In fact, how about: we *could* go ahead with the 10.9 point release as
already planned, and expect to do a 10.10 a couple of weeks later with
basically *just* the shim/SB changes? I'm OK to go with that option if
that's our preferred route as a group.

(Obviously, either of these options will be eating into time for
fixing things for a Bullseye release.)

Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
Into the distance, a ribbon of black
Stretched to the point of no turning back

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