Re: Bug#697868: network manager is installed when cd2 is also used

[Praveen A <pravi.a@gmail.com>]

2013/1/17 Steven Chamberlain <steven@pyro.eu.org>:
> On 16/01/13 15:36, Praveen A wrote:
>> 2013/1/13 Steven Chamberlain <steven@pyro.eu.org>:
>>> 3. add network-manager-gnome to gnome-core (seems inappropriate)
>>
>> yes, there was big debate on it
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681834
>
> Ah I see, that's already been decided.  A consequence of downgrading it
> to Recommends:, though, is that it is no longer prioritised for
> inclusion on CD-1.
>
> I think that was probably unintentional;  that the intent was to make
> network-manager optional, rather than remove it altogether from a CD-1
> default install.

I agree. It was more for people who chose another program like wicd, I think.

>>>> 2. add network-manager-gnome specially to debian-cd's
>>>> tasks/wheezy/Debian-gnome, after the forcd1 include - after all, we are
>>>> just trying to manipulate what goes onto CD1.
>
> That may be the only sensible suggestion now.
>
> Perhaps mobile-broadband-provider-info, modemmanager and usb-modeswitch
> are all desirable as well.  (These are recommends of
> network-manager[-gnome] and not already on CD-1).

yes.

> I'm not sure yet what packages these would displace, and hence if any of
> this is technically feasible.  If not, users must be strongly warned of
> the limitations of GNOME CD-1, to avoid disappointment.

Yes. I think the debian installer should show this warning when it
asks for new cds to scan, if we can't get this fixed in CD 1.

> The ultimate aim would be to offer GNOME CD-1 users the easiest
> possible, and comprehensive, means to set up networking and be able to
> install additional software.

Though easy installation of additional software would need a bit more
polish I guess. A start here
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698336 I will open a
wishlist bug against synaptic as well for easy addition of mirrors.

> The rationale is similar to #630805 and #231583, whereby packages were
> prioritised for inclusion on CD-1 (but those were much smaller, and
> unintrusive...).

thanks for these references. apt-offline would be really useful.
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