Am 2007-04-17 00:59:35, schrieb Matt Taggart: > DVD drives have been out for long enough that new drives are cheap, and you > can probably find a used drive for only a few bucks (or free) if you don't > want to buy new (even DVD writers are getting affordable). They are available > in IDE/SCSI/sata/USB connection types, internal and external enclosures, and > it probably possible to add one to machines of all the archs that Debian There are many countries where you will have trouble to get DVD-Rom/ Burner and even there are no Venders of CD/DVD... But they have and Internet connection... even sometimes vers slow... (I know 2 peoples who have downloaded the binary-1.iso with a V.34+ modem) > supports. In the rare cases it's not(and again, these are cases where there is > ALSO no good internet connection), people can probably run a LAN cable to a > nearby machine that can support a DVD drive and serve things up via http. But they need at least the first 2-4 CD-Images... > For the folks that these images are for, the ones far off the internet, I have > no idea how many CD images lenny will require, but I bet the cost of that many > CDs and shipping will be close enough to the cost of a DVD drive and the fewer > amount of DVDs required. Or even shipping a cheap hard drive... A DVD-Drive send from France to an African contry cost environement 40 Euros plus the Import-Tax between 30-80 Euro... I have already an experience with it and then, there is no waranty that it goes to the Person... > Also the CDs are sorted according to popularity. The interestingness of the CD > images drops off very quickly after the the first few. > > Costs of additional CD images: > * require additional cycles to generate (pretty cheap, but adds up as it's done > a lot) > * storage to keep around (currently all the ISOs are 340+ gb IIRC, maybe 40% > is the full CD set) > * bandwidth to provide (jidgo fixes this for people using it, but not everyone > does) > * additional bandwidth/storage on mirrors > * requires additional torrent seeds > > So how about keeping around a fixed amount of CD images per arch and dropping > the rest? I was thinking 3-4, but it might be cool to keep the first DVD's > worth of packages, so maybe that would be 7 CDs? I think, this would be very acceptable... > Hmm, we have the kde/xfce images too, I wonder if it would be possible to make > each of those be unique beyond the base install and they could act as CD 2 and > 3 for each other? Why not make three BASE CD's, where on 1. is ALL KDE 2. is ALL GNOME 3. is all fvwm/xfce stuff? This CD's can be small as possible, even if they will have only 200-400 MBytes. I have never used KDE/GNOME and it is annoying, that I need to download several 100 MBytes for nothing only to get a full install CD (and no, netinstall is NO OPTION, since in most cases I have not Network) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com)
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