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Re: Bits from the debian-cd team; more CD/DVDs being built regularly

On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 05:04:28PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
>Let me thanks the debian-desktop, debian-installer and tasksel team
>too. Without them, that stuff would be useless.

Yup, of course. :-)

>I would like to clarify that debian-desktop (alioth, svn, mailing
>list) is now a unit composed by pkg-gnome, pkg-kde and pkg-xfce and
>tasksel members. Joey Hess (d-i and debian-cd) give us all the support
>to make stuff happen.
>Unfortunately, even the GNOME desktop environment doesn't fit on the
>CD#1. You will need broadband connection to fetch some more packages
>or use the full DVD#1 for your architecture. The bonus is that KDE
>will be there too (full DVD #1). I'm not sure about the latest
>statistics on KDE and XFCE alternative desktop CD#1. Joey, could you
>give us that information? Btw, i would like to suggest add it
>somewhere in the release notes "where's what" in terms of medias. I
>can submit patches, after you feed me with info.

As Joey suggests, the key task packages from Gnome and KDE should each
fit on their respective versions of CD#1.

>>There is also a combined amd64/i386/powerpc/source DVD which should
>>contain most of what people will commonly want to install on each of
>>those 3 arches, roughly equivalent to the contents of the first 3-4
>>CDs or so each. Binary-all package overlaps mean that there is space
>>on this disc for more packages than might be expected. Plus, sources
>>for all the binaries on the DVD will be included too. This DVD is
>>therefore probably the ideal choice of disc to sell or give away at
>Does it contains desktop, kde-desktop, gnome-desktop and xfce-desktop?
>I guess not, but who knows. ;)

I would hope so, yes. It'll also depend on popcon ordering as to
exactly what gets there.

>>In case it's not obvious, the 3 arches picked for these discs are
>>simply the most common end-user systems out there. There is scope for
>>producing more multi-arch discs, but the possible combinations are
>>*massive* :-).
>I would like to suggest 'split' the 9 archs left in 3, something like:
>- arm, mips, mipsel
>- hppa, ia64, s390
>- sparc, m68k, alpha
>Is it possible? Do you think it will fit ? If yes, i can prepare
>patches for debian-cd once i figure out all that pile of changes.

There is a problem that I didn't mention here specifically yet: many
of the arches clash in terms of how to make a CD bootable. Many expect
to find their own special metadata in sector 0 of the CD, and most of
them are completely incompatible. :-( We're actually quite lucky that
the common 3 arches are compatible.

The other thing is that the number of CD/DVD-bootable machines in the
other arches is really quite small, probably small enough not to be
worth bothering with the extra effort here for the multi-arch discs.

>>To do
>>I'm still expecting to add Live CDs to the list here before we
>>release. Otherwise, I think we're about set. If there's anything else
>>you'd like us to do or anything you'd like to ask about, please reply
>>to this mail - note the Reply-To to the debian-cd list.
>Do you plan to use the live-package to build the live cds or some new
>code into debian-cd ? If you're going to pick live-package i submitted
>a patch to Daniel that would permit use a tasksel based approach to
>select packages, and not the fixed list as they actually do. I have no
>feedback about that until now. It seems they were going to do a major
>change in the code.

Yep, I'm expecting to use live-package. I need to get playing with
that soon...

Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.                                steve@einval.com
"C++ ate my sanity" -- Jon Rabone

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