> 2) isn't emacs important enough to be on the first cd? It was for woody. I'm not sure about the details regarding this issue, but I do know that the package order on the CD is partly depending on the relative popularity of packages as reported by popularity-contest (<URL:http://popcon.debian.org/>). Perhaps emacs is too far down on that list? More people should install popularity-contest on their machine, to make sure the relative ordering reflect reality.