Hello
> > > Are you using a 2.4 kernel? I'm afraid the default kernel is a 2.2 kernel.
> > > Either install a newer one or enter "bf2.4" at the CD boot prompt...
> >
> > Yes, you were right - the default kernel ist still 2.2.20 with Debian GNU
> > Linux 3.0 (!). To be honest, I did not expect that any recent distribution
> > would not come with Kernel 2.4.x, so I didn't even check it. Shame on me ;-)
>
> When woody froze for release the 2.4 kernel was that new, untested and
> somewhat flakey kernel of the future, not the old reliable trusted
> friend that we know it to be today. Look back two years from now and
> you will see that the current 2.4.20 kernel will be viewed as an old
> kernel and who would be using any such ancient thing. It is all
> relative.
2.4.18 is now in the stable tree and there is also a bf2.4 bootimage,
so it was just me overlooking to install the most recent package -
so it's not really a problem with only ancient packages being available,
but the default packages that get installed.
I just neglected Debian installations for too long and stuck too much
with other distributions like Red Hat or Mandrake, so I became a bit
used to sophisticated installation programs ;)
> > I installed Kernel 2.4.18-k7, but this was not trivial since the
> > installation did not generate a valid modules.conf automatically (as
> > I would have expected), so I had to manually enter all the modules
> > for the machine hardware (like Ethernet, SCSI, sound etc.).
>
> Debian currently does not have any automatic hardware detection. You
> need to know what hardware you have installed and to configure that
> hardware in /etc/modules.
>
> The lack of any automatic hardware discovery is a well known and well
> thrashed issue with Debian. The new debian-installer project well
> under way today is addressing that issue specifically in addition to
> many others. Please be patient. It is only an install issue. It
> does not affect daily operation. I use the computer daily. But I
> installed the software only once.
>
> Also, the file you refer to is not the correct location for your
> modules. You should list those in /etc/modules instead of
> /etc/modules.conf. That was was probably your main problem. The
> /etc/modules.conf file is automatically generated from another set of
> files. You changes may be overwritten in the future.
>
> One would normally either edit /etc/modules and place their list
> there, or use the 'modconf' utility to help them do that. I recommend
> 'modconf' since it has some safety built it.
Well, I will need to reread the current Debian admin guide probably ;-)
Much has changed or is very different from commercial distributions.
...
> This list debian-cd is really not the right place to be discussing
> installation issues. That is well beyond the issues of the cd. A
> better place to discuss these other topics would be debian-user which
> is the user support discussion list for Debian. If you would be so
> kind as to ask your further questions not related to cd's in
> debian-user I believe you will find a large helpful user community
> there.
I just wanted to generate plain Debian DVD images for our customers
on a vanilla Debian Woody installation and I just needed to find out why
it didn't build successfully. So if I had asked about debian-cd problems
on debian-user, this might have been the wrong point to start with too ;-)
The KDE 3.1 thing is of course something that doesn't belong here.
But I guess that 90% of commercial Debian CD vendors follow this list
and some of them might be interested to learn about the issues with
creating Debian DVD images, especially since there are no 3.0r1
DVD jigdos on the net currently.
Anyway, thanks for your long and complete answer to my questions,
I think the spirit in the Debian mailing lists is something I do
appreciate very much. So we will definitely focus more on the Debian
project in the future ;-)
The DVD-images (i386 + source) now all built successfully and I will
do a test installation on one of my machines tonight. If anyone needs
the jigdos for the DVD images and knows a place for uploading, just
let me know and I will put them there. No guarantees that they are 100%
correct at this stage of course, I will need to dig into debian-cd to
find out more on how to check about the correctness of its results 8)
BTW, are there any known issues with Debian DVD images for PowerPC ?
We have all packages on our server, but unfortunately I don't own
a G3/G4 machine yet to verify if it would boot from the Mac DVD drives.
Best Regards
Bernd Hentig
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