Re: Mirrors, it is nice, but after a week no one is up to date
On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:00:33AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 09:24:50AM +0200, Laurent LEVIER écrivait:
> > Ok, so for guys waiting for ISO images, it would be great to have a
> > simple script to create them.
>
> How what a good idea !! It's called debian-cd. :) However when you build
> the CDs yourself you're not providing official debian CDs.
>
> BTW, Phil Hands has had some (hardware/kernel driver) troubles on the
> computer on which he should have generated the images, that explains why
> they are not yet available.
>
> > This way, at the moment when the distribution is made, it is 5 minutes
> > to create the new ISO image...
>
> The script take more time than 5 minutes to run.
For all architectures, on a reasonably quick machine, probably a minimum of
6 hours (that would need a quicker machine than I've got ;-), and that's
assuming that the archive is in a clean state, which it currently is not.
While it's true that open.hands.com has been crashing a lot recently, that
is not the main reason I've not built images. I've actually succeeded in
doing 2 & 2 halfs of CD production runs, between crashes, but the fact
that the non-US/Contents file was broken, and that the package pool links
for a few packages were wrong, means that the images were not 100% right,
and while it might be OK to release the main archive with minor flaws,
I'm of the oppinion that we should not release the CDs until all known
fixable bugs are fixed, because downloading a load of CD images takes a
long time, and if you then find that you're missing the one thing you
were really intreested in, you're not going to be happy. When it comes
to people that want to press CDs in quantity (which is the whole motivation
behind the "official" CD images, after all) the reasons not to release
are magnified yet further.
If CD production were a trivial 5 minute thing, then I wouldn't bother
with making official images. The fact is that it isn't, which is why
it's worth doing them, and as long as I'm doing them you're going to
have to put up with my anal "100% right, or not at all" attitude.
If that's not to your liking, go ahead, get a copy of debian-cd and
make your own --- it's not hard really. It takes a certain amount of
attention to detail, and several hours, but it's not difficult.
Cheers, Phil.
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