Hi Phil, hi Cyril, On Mo 26 Mai 2025 22:52:22 CEST, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
[ cc += Guido Günther ] Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> (2025-05-26):Combining this and the Phosh MR[1] ends up looking like this (1024x768): https://openqa.debian.net/tests/399843#step/choose_software/1 Lomiri currently appears twice, so that is 3 new entries with Phosh.
I'd say, we should have 1 Lomiri entry, targetting desktop installations for now.
BTW The descriptions for the 2 Lomiri tasks need to be fixed, in order to distinguish between the `desktop` and `tablet` variants, unless we decided to only offer one of those via tasksel.Thanks. I think I'd like to have a single entry to start with, maybe the desktop variant?
Yes, see above.
I can understand how hard targeting this or that bit of hardware can be, but I would really expect a desktop environment to have components to figure that out at runtime, instead of having two different sets of packages.
Ok.
(Thinking out loud, maybe it'd be feasible to skip one of them from d-i, but offer it when tasksel runs interactively — not from pkgsel —, so that users can switch from say task-lomiri-desktop to task-lomiri-tablet by running tasksel after the install? But if that's mainly about requiring fewer packages, as opposed to different core components, I'd think that reinforces my initial assessment: propose Lomiri for desktop, leaving it up to tablet users to either skip desktop entirely, then installing the -tablet task afterwards, or to buy the whole desktop and call it a day?)
Thanks for the loud thinking. How can D-I be tweaked to only show the lomiri desktop task, but not the tablet task. (I don't know the internal wiring between tasksel and D-I).
It would be nice to leave the lomiri tablet task in the tasksel package while omitting it from D-I. Is that possible?
I haven't looked at either MRs at the moment, but I think I'd like to have the newest additions at the bottom of the desktop (kinda-sub)list, instead of having them pop up at some (seemingly) random locations in the existing, non-sorted list. I'd think that's only a matter of adjusting some priority/score/relevance integer that I vaguely remember, though, so that should be on the easy side of things.
Hoping for D-I adepts to have a solution for this. I agree with this idea of appending the new kids on the block to the already-used-to-desktop-env-list.
Thoughts on both topics? (The first one might be a hard one, the second one should be mostly cosmetics?)
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