Re: debian-installer: call to update translations - Tajik
Hi,
Victor Ibragimov <victor.ibragimov@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Holger,
>
> For a comfortable translation and editing I have used third-party apps to
> work on all five Debian files opened and sorted in a single view for
> translation. So I could see all strings and work on all five files in a
> single view with translation memory, terminology base and Tajik
> spell-checker attached to my process of work. Plus along with Debian files
> I keep working on Gnome and KDE translations and other projects to adjust
> the terminology and new spelling consistency along all files and projects.
>
> So, I suggest that my manipulation with files for translation process
> changed the formatting. But when I reopened and edited the Debian files in
> POEdit, everything looked perfect. So, I did not know that formatting has
> changed. Sorry for that!
In this case, I think it is reason enough for you to go on as you did.
As I wrote: it's no real problem, so no need for getting nervous :-)
And no need to change your workflow: if you have worked out a special method,
that works best for you: fine, go on.
The po files are valid, everything fine.
> And thank you for letting me know about this
> issue. By the way, could you please, hint if there are apps that can open
> many .PO files at once in one/single view for translation and editing
> without changing the formatting or could you please, send me the script and
No, I'm not aware of such app, sorry.
But maybe you would be more comfortable with a web-based translation platform
like Weblate? I'm not sure, if this fitts your needs, but since some weeks we
have such platform running for the debian-installer translations, at:
https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/debian-installer/
Tajik is not activated there, but I could do that, if you want.
Regards
Holger
> instruction to cron and run the script on my side to correct the formatting
> in files before the commit. I think I will complete the current translation
> of Debian files in the environment I have already figured out for this
> round, so I am afraid that formatting can be changed again, when I finish
> the review and translation. If the idea with running the script on my side
> to correct the formatting is too complex, let me see if I can refill the
> original files with final translations from the TM to save the original
> formatting, but it may take more of my time then.
>
> Have a great day,
> Victor
>
> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:45 PM, Holger Wansing <linux@wansing-online.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Victor,
> >
> > Victor Ibragimov <victor.ibragimov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dear Holger,
> > >
> > > I have just committed files with improved Tajik translations.
> > Terminology,
> > > inconsistency and some spelling issues have been resolved.
> > > However, I still keep working on Tajik files to make them 100%.
> > > Could you please, check if the commit was successful and files with
> > > improved translations are updated on Debian site.
> >
> > Thanks for your work.
> > The commit was fine, the new files are used now.
> >
> >
> > But let me give one hint:
> > your files have the formatting changed, it has the whole content of the
> > msgid and msgstr in one line (no matter how long the content is). That
> > makes
> > partly very long lines.
> >
> > Maybe you are not aware of this; when you edit the file with poedit, you
> > see
> > no difference no matter what formatting is used. I would then be just a
> > setting in poedit.
> >
> > It is not really a problem, we have a script running daily, which will
> > correct
> > this today in the evenning.
> >
> > The only point is: when someone wants to use the diff, for example at
> > https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/packages/po/
> > sublevel1/tg.po?r1=71001&r2=71000&pathrev=71001
> > (maybe because he wants to review the changings), that's nearly impossible,
> > since the diff is so heavily big, because many lines are shown as changed,
> > however the content did not change, only the formatting.
> >
> > So, maybe you have a good reason to do it this way, then it would be your
> > choice to do it as you like.
> > But if there is no real reason, it would probably worse to change this
> > behaviour.
> >
> >
> > Nevertheless, thanks for your translation :-)
> >
> > Regards
> > Holger
> >
> >
> > > Have a nice day!
> > > Victor
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:25 AM, Holger Wansing <linux@wansing-online.de>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > "Victor Ibragimov" <victor.ibragimov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Holger,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I did receive the files and they are on my desktop almost
> > completed!
> > > > > There are also some consistency issues with the terminology to update
> > > > across
> > > > > the files.
> > > > > Once completed I will send you files to commit or please, send me
> > details
> > > > > with commit rights so I do it by myself immediately by then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a great day and happy new year!
> > > > > Victor
> > > >
> > > > A happy New Year to you, too!
> > > >
> > > > Your info on translation status sound great.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regarding your answer on commit rights:
> > > >
> > > > When looking at
> > > > https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i?view=revision&revision=69062
> > > > I see that you had commit rights in the past as alioth user
> > > > "ibragimov-guest".
> > > > So, is there a problem with that account? Do you have problems with
> > > > committing files to our repository?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Holger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Holger Wansing [mailto:linux@wansing-online.de]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 1:50 AM
> > > > > To: Victor Ibragimov <victor.ibragimov@gmail.com>; debian-boot
> > > > > <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: debian-installer: call to update translations - Tajik
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Victor,
> > > > >
> > > > > "Victor Ibragimov" <victor.ibragimov@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Dear Holger,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could you please, send me the Tajik files as attachments to review
> > and
> > > > > > update and once ready I will send them back to you to commit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have a nice day!
> > > > > > Victor
> > > > >
> > > > > I have sent the files to your mail address. Did you receive them?
> > > > > Could you sent me a quick note, if you still intend to work on them?
> > > > > Otherwise I would try to look for other translators ...
> > > > > (I don't want to annoy you, and there is no hurry with this
> > translation,
> > > > > please don't feel be put on pressure!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Holger
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: if you prefer, you can use the Weblate web-frontend for
> > translation
> > > > > now:
> > > > > https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/debian-installer/
> > > > > Just drop me a note, I can enable Tajik for Weblate, if you like.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Holger Wansing [mailto:linux@wansing-online.de]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:19 PM
> > > > > > To: Victor Ibragimov <victor.ibragimov@gmail.com>
> > > > > > Cc: debian-boot <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
> > > > > > Subject: debian-installer: call to update translations - Tajik
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm currently trying to get translations updated for our
> > > > > > debian-installer for Buster.
> > > > > > For your language the translation has some work to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since you are the last translator, I want to ask if you could take
> > > > > > some time to update it?
> > > > > > That would be really great!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Repository is here:
> > > > > > https://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/packages/po/
> > > > > > Translation statistics can be found here:
> > > > > > https://d-i.debian.org/l10n-stats/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Feel free to ask, if you have any questions!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Holger
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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