Re: Bug#433568: VLANs during install are important
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 09:48:38AM +0100, Josef Wolf wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 01:07:04AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Saturday 30 January 2010, Josef Wolf wrote:
> > > Would be just a change in a config option, right? So that's not really a
> > > big deal and could be done independently of the changes we are
> > > discussing in this thread, right?
> >
> > It would also mean a size increase of the initrd for all architectures...
>
> That's right. But only for netinstall. What about supporting vlan only with
> CD installation?
I think that's a terrible idea; as much as possible, Debian should install
practically the same whatever method you choose, and a lot of hard work has
gone into making this happen.
At any rate, the size of the initrd isn't a download problem so much as an
installer memory footprint problem -- which isn't mitigated by using an
install CD.
> BTW: all the needed bits are on the install CD anyway (in the ordinary
> packages). Why not extract them from the ordinary packages instead of
> duplicating them by creating special udebs?
Because you'd have to install the packages in the ramdisk, costing even more
memory, or do rather a lot of unpleasant stuffing around to extract just the
few files you needed, and you would then lack the benefits of packages
(dependency checking and resolution, etc) making the whole mess incredibly
fragile and hard to maintain. Udebs are also a part of that "installs work
the same everywhere" thing.
> > We usually don't do make such changes lightly.
>
> I guess this decision is not up to me. ;-)
No, but you can help the decision be made by demonstrating precisely how
much of a "cost" there actually is by building up a customised installer and
presenting the appropriate statistics.
- Matt
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