Quoting Frans Pop (elendil@planet.nl):
> > I'd just recommend "Please select" which is the style we generally
> > push in dle reviews (avoid imperative form).
>
> Using the imperative form is wrong in the *short* description (which was
> the problem in the old version), but IMO in a lot of cases it's fine for
> the *extended* description. I did not add the "please"s on purpose,
> basically because they've started to annoy me.
>
> For the extended description we should distinguish between text that is a
> *request* and text that provides *instruction*. In the first case
> adding "please" is fine (even needed), in the second case it's IMO
> redundant.
Matter of taste (and overall consistency). I'll use the polite form in
the French translation...
> > > Template: localechooser/translation/none-yet
> > > Type: note
> > > @@ -141,16 +140,25 @@ Type: select
> > > # :sl1:
> > > __Choices: ${SHORTLIST}, other
> > > # :sl1:
> > > -_Description: Choose a country, territory or area:
> > > - Based on your language, you are probably located in one of these
> > > countries - or regions.
> > > +_Description: Country, territory or area:
> > > + Select the country where you live. The selection will be used for
> > > example to + select a default locale and time zone.
> > > + .
> > > + Choose "other" if your country is not listed.
> >
> > That one is more tricky. Using "where you live" implicitely assumes
> > that the user installing the system is the one "owning" the machine,
> > which is not well suited in all cases. Also, the user might be living
> > somewhere but installing the machine elsewhere. Of course, what
> > matters here is probably more the place where the machine is
> > living..:-)
> >
> > The former template had the same "problem" of course.
> >
> > Please select the country where the installed system is used.
>
> This is a lot less clear.
>
> My proposed text is fine for the general case where users install their own
> systems. People installing systems for others will know how to "translate"
> the request for their situation (and even then the selection will be "the
> country where they live" in >95% of cases).
>
> Saying "the country where you live" is IMO the simplest way to avoid the
> reports from users that they did not get the correct time zone.
>
> It is also more logical for the situation where a user installs a portable
> system while on holiday. And remember that portable systems can and will
> be "used" all over the world.
What about:
(please) Select the country that will be used, for example, to select
a default locale and time zone.
That would avoid the ambiguous "where you live".
> > Choose "other" to get the full list of countries.
>
> Problem is that you don't get a "full list of countries", you get a list of
> continents...
We could turn this to "Choose "other" to choos a country that is not
listed here."
> > Apart from that, everything is fine, except maybe the length of the
> > two paragrpahs, that takes a lot of spaces and leaves few romm for the
> > list on 80x25 systems.
>
> It still leaves 10 lines for selection with vga=normal, so it's not that
> bad. But I've now moved the first sentence to a separate "help" template;
> this saves 2 lines, so now 12 lines are displayed.
Yes. We should by the way make better use of these help templates,
indeed. Could be useful for our country selection detailed instructions.
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