[+pkg-mozilla-maintainers] * Joey Hess (joeyh@debian.org) wrote: > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le mardi 03 juin 2008 à 10:24 -0300, Otavio Salvador a écrit : > > > I think providing multiple alternatives for same task confuses the user. > > > > Cool, are you finally willing to drop iceweasel from the gnome-desktop > > task then? > > I won't try to argue with gnome people about more choices confusing > users. You've drunk that cool-aide too. ;-) > > I'd *love* to not have two browsers in the desktop task. > The reasons firefox was originally included were: > > - Name-brand recognition. Now eliminated by the mozilla project. > - Vast number of plugins and other market-share advantages. > - Some sites only work with MSIE and firefox. Or that have some features > that only work with browsers claiming to be these. (Including google > maps.) Horrible but true. This advantage also eliminated from iceweasel > to the sad detriment of many of our users. (#401507) > - Not wanting users to have to go manually install it, especially as > a somewhat scarily large fraction apparently install it by downloading > a tarball. > > On the balance, most of the reasons to install iceweasel by default have > withered away. A few still remain, and the user-agent problem is really > a bug in iceweasel, that should be RC IMHO[1]. I had been hoping that it > would be fixed. If it continues to not be fixed, I'll continue to > unhappily lean toward dropping iceweasel from the task. So the user agent thing is fairly well documented at http://bugs.debian.org/399633, but basically it's our stand against user-agent insanity. We could of course make it say Firefox easily, but this certainly seems a bit defeatist. I think we should almost certainly document the workaround better in the README.Debian. Of course I highly respect Joey's opinion so I'm open to more convincing. As to whether to include Iceweasel over epiphany (or whatever) in the gnome task, that's probably the gnome team's call. However, Iceweasel is clearly the more popular one and 3.0 does have better integration with Gnome (at least look at feel wise). -- Eric Dorland <eric@kuroneko.ca> ICQ: #61138586, Jabber: hooty@jabber.com
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