Re: Why preseeding with localized values?

[Josef Wolf <jw@raven.inka.de>]

On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:50:37AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:

Thanks for your quick response, Joey!  And sorry that I come back to
it with such a dely, but I wanted to locate the real problem first and
testing the installer just takes sooo long ;-)

> Josef Wolf wrote:
> > I wonder about the reason to use localized values to answer preseed
> > questions as described on
> > 
> >    http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs03.html
> 
> I don't see anything here about using localised values in preseeding,
> except for a note that there might be some questions in partman that are
> broken and need to be preseeded using a localised value.

Sorry for the confusion.  I understood that note the way that the
translated values are considered to be a feature.  My misundarstanding
was probably because englich is not my native language :)

> AFAIK, none of those are in areas that can be usefully preseeded anyway.

OK.

> > My actual problem is to properly preseed tasksel.  I already had
> > 
> >   tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-standard, kubuntu-desktop
> >
> > working as expected.  Then I changed keyboard/language to german, and
> > it stopped working.  Then I tried 
> 
> I'm afraid that I cannot support Ubuntu-specific stuff.

I understand.  But, AFAICS, this is not necessarily an ubuntu issue.
While ubuntu specifies its own tasks, the basic operation is the same.

The problem seems to be that the task "kubuntu-desktop" is not available
while installing, but it is available later as "Kubuntu desktop" when
tasksel is called from the desktop.  Changing it back to "ubuntu-desktop"
fixed the preseeding problem.  Sorry for the confusion!

> >   tasksel tasksel/first multiselect Desktop environment, Standard system
> > 
> > as suggested on
> > 
> >   http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/hppa/apcs01.html.de
> 
> This has changed since stable, now you would preseed:
> "gnome-desktop, standard"

Sorry, but I'm still confused.  I just did "debconf-show tasksel" and
I got:

  tasksel/first: ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-desktop
  tasksel/tasks: Kubuntu desktop, Ubuntu desktop

Can it be that the format was changed only for tasksel/first but not
for tasksel/tasks?  I come back again to the question I asked before:
How do I find out what questions are asked and what values are valid?
debconf-show is of little help here, because one needs to do a full
install with priority=low to find out all asked questions.