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Re: non-free firmware and d-i

On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:05:09PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Your mail suggests a number of things, but I feel most of those are
> > redundant; it should be possible to do just a subset.
> My mail tries to explore all the positibities, it doesn't suggest
> implementing them all. However, a certian amount of redundancy is
> necessary to get an installer that everyone can use.
> > * Stop providing driver disk images, requring people to create them
> >   themselves by copying .udeb files onto a physical floppy disk or
> >   cdrom (Rationale: this will help people understand what's really going
> >   on, rather than have them assume that the driver disk image is
> >   something very special which it isn't. I know I thought so before you
> >   just told me on IRC that they only contained udebs...)
> This won't be practical. They are just udebs, but they have complex
> interedependencies and we can't expect users to pick the right set of
> udebs to put on a driver floppy that both supports all the hardware they
> need to support and fit in its limited space. For example, the i386
> cd-drivers floppy contained 19 udebs.

Come on Joeyh, we are speaking of kernel module .udebs, not the rest of it.
Did you do an analysis of those modules concerned, and what their dependency
situation is before making such claims ? Have you any info on how big those
drivers and firmware actually are ? 

Sven Luther

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