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Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 16th August 2004: Netinstall ISO from UK Debian
mirror

uname -a:
Linux gormenghast 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Mon May 16 16:47:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

Date: Multiple attempts due to X server requirements. Last 21st August 2005
Method: Downloaded debian-r31r0a-i386-netinst.iso from UK Debian mirror
( sorry - forget which one).  Burnt to CD and booted from that.

Machine: Dell Latitude L400 PIII-700 (Latitide_LS)
Processor: Intel Pentium PIII
Memory: 256MB
Root Device: IDE /dev/dha1
Root Size/partition table:  Feel free to paste the full partition
      table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1             250M   75M  163M  32% /
tmpfs                 126M     0  126M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda9             3.4G   39M  3.2G   2% /home
/dev/hda8             272M  8.1M  250M   4% /tmp
/dev/hda5             3.3G  1.6G  1.6G  50% /usr
/dev/hda6             1.6G   96M  1.4G   7% /var

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

lspci :


0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03)
0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio (rev 01)
0000:00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
0000:00:0d.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78)
0000:00:10.0 Communication controller: Lucent Microelectronics WinModem 56k (rev 01)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64)

lspci -n

0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 0680: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 03)
0000:00:08.0 0401: 1013:6005 (rev 01)
0000:00:0a.0 0607: 104c:ac50 (rev 01)
0000:00:0d.0 0200: 10b7:9200 (rev 78)
0000:00:10.0 0780: 11c1:0448 (rev 01)
0000:01:00.0 0300: 1002:4c4d (rev 64)


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:    [O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network:         [O]
Detect CD:              [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:    [O]
Mount partitions:       [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Reboot:                 [O]

Comments/Problems:

The basic install is good but I have now been through it about 3 times this
weekend.  I'm slightly more familiar with it than when I started.

I had no ftp client installed via the basic install first time I tried
to install on this machine.

My problems really begin when I try to install X and deskop apps.
First of all for some reason I missed/didn't read the selection screen
to select package sets so I ended up with the basic install and not
a lot else.

I set up the sources.list to get from

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

rather than CD but couldn't work out how to get the X window stuff.

I then redid the install and spotted the selection of package sets so I
selected the Desktop one.  Downloading everything took a fair while.
I then had to get the synaptic drivers for the touchpad,
xfree86-synaptic-drivers and found that I was having problems with the
laptop when it went into suspensed mode.  I'll be trying acpi=off noacpi in
the grub bootloader shortly.

I played around in the X Windows configuration, wanting to see if I could get
a change in the login screen and install other window managers beside kde
and gnome.  I would prefer to have a choice of window managers and desktops
presented to me.  I don't use gnome, but this is an old machine and kde and
gnome are quite slow to load.  I'm happy with a window manager but another
person occasionally uses the laptop and is more used to Windows, so needs
a Desktop rather than a window manager.

Anyway, I screwed that up and had to re-install again.  I've downloaded
the Desktop selection again, went into kde and it was ok.  Some slightly
buggy things do occur. I changed the taskbar to use small icons.  Next time
I loaded up the panel configurator the OK, Cancel buttons were covered by
the panel and I had to hide it to get to them.

There's no firefox by default so I got that installed, but it crashes
at the end of the downloading of a theme, and will crash if I try to
select one of the themes listed. Both themes I attempted to download did
this and they both came from the mozilla site.

Install logs and other status info is available in /var/log/debian-installer/.
Once you have filled out this report, mail it to submit@bugs.debian.org.


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On Tuesday 23 August 2005 13:40, lesleyb wrote:
> Comments/Problems:
>
> The basic install is good but I have now been through it about 3 times
> this weekend.  I'm slightly more familiar with it than when I started.

In general that is not needed, but sometimes probably easier than 
uninstalling or reconfiguring packages, especially if you are not 
familiar with programs like aptitude.
However, if you take the time to get to know them, you will be surprised 
how flexible it is.

> My problems really begin when I try to install X and deskop apps.
> First of all for some reason I missed/didn't read the selection screen
> to select package sets so I ended up with the basic install and not
> a lot else.

Installing X is not really a part of the installation, but I will try to 
give you some suggestions anyway. If you still have questions, you're 
probably bettor of asking them on the debian-user mailing list.

As the installation itself was successful, I'm also closing your report 
(with thanks for submitting it).

> I set up the sources.list to get from
>
> deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main
> deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ stable main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
>
> rather than CD but couldn't work out how to get the X window stuff.

The netinst CD does not contain any packages other than the base system, 
so this is normal. If you want to install other packages from CD, you 
will need full CD images.

You can install X by selecting the appropriate packages in aptitude. 
Selecting pseudo-package 'kde' works quite well, although you may need to 
also select some of the packages "suggested" by that.

> I played around in the X Windows configuration, wanting to see if I
> could get a change in the login screen and install other window
> managers beside kde and gnome.  I would prefer to have a choice of
> window managers and desktops presented to me.  I don't use gnome, but
> this is an old machine and kde and gnome are quite slow to load.  I'm
> happy with a window manager but another person occasionally uses the
> laptop and is more used to Windows, so needs a Desktop rather than a
> window manager.

There are some other, more lightweight desktops around.

Cheers,
FJP



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