Re: Bug#269529: OldWorld pmac installation -- several problems
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Hello...I've got an Oldworld G3/266 w/ Voodoo3 card. Couple of questions:
When you boot using BootX, did you try to use initrd.gz from the iso? Or have
you tried to do it from your hfs MacOS hard drive? I've not had any success
using BootX and initrd.gz from my hfs hard drive. Can you provide a command
line for BootX (aka kernel arguments in the BootX screen)?
Also...do you have video? With my voodoo3 card and 2.6.x, I get no video, just
a penguin and no other information.
Thanks for any help you can provide...
Russell
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 20:06, Rick_Thomas wrote:
> Package: installation-reports
>
> powerpc businesscard 20040829 OldWorld PowerMac
>
> INSTALL REPORT
>
> Debian-installer-version: <Fill in date and from where you got the image>
>
> Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current
>
> Name Last modified Size Description
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Parent Directory 29-Aug-2004 00:21 -
> MD5SUMS 29-Aug-2004 00:21 1k
>
> >>>> sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso 29-Aug-2004 00:19 141M
>
> sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso 29-Aug-2004 00:21 298M
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Apache/1.3.31 Server at cdimage.debian.org Port 80
>
>
> uname -a: <The result of running uname -a on a shell prompt>
>
> Linux dillserver 2.6.7-powerpc #1 Thu Aug 5 23:48:59 CEST 2004 ppc
> GNU/Linux
>
>
> Date: <Date and time of the install>
>
> 4 AM (UTC) 2004-09-01
>
>
> Method:
> How did you install?
>
> businesscard CD-ROM
>
> What did you boot off?
>
> MacOS-9 via BootX
>
> If network install, from where?
>
> #deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ sarge main
>
> deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ testing main
> deb-src http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ testing main
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
>
>
> Proxied?
>
> No
>
>
> Machine: <Description of machine (eg, IBM Thinkpad R32)>
>
> PowerMac 6500/225
>
> Processor:
>
> processor : 0
> cpu : 603ev
> clock : 225MHz
> revision : 2.1 (pvr 0007 0201)
> bogomips : 148.99
> machine : Power Macintosh
> motherboard : AAPL,e411 MacRISC
> detected as : 36 (Gazelle)
> pmac flags : 00000000
> memory : 128MB
> pmac-generation : OldWorld
>
>
> Memory:
>
> 128 MB
>
>
> Root Device: <IDE? SCSI? Name of device?>
>
> IDE /dev/hda11
>
> Root Size/partition table: Feel free to paste the full partition
> table, with notes on which partitions are mounted where.
>
>
>
> The root is on hda11, swap is on hda7.
> The sda disk is present but unused in this installation.
> The rest of the hda disk (particularly the hda9
> "Apple_Bootstrap" partition) is unused in this installation.
>
> /dev/hda
> # type name length base (
> size ) system /dev/hda1 Apple_partition_map Apple
> 63 @ 1 ( 31.5k) Partition map /dev/hda2 Apple_Driver_ATA
> Macintosh 54 @ 64 ( 27.0k) Unknown /dev/hda3
> Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh 74 @ 118 ( 37.0k) Unknown
> /dev/hda4 Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh 512 @ 192
> (256.0k) Unknown /dev/hda5 Apple_Patches Patch Partition
> 512 @ 704 (256.0k) Unknown /dev/hda6 Apple_HFS
> untitled 1024000 @ 1216 (500.0M) HFS /dev/hda7
> Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap 500001 @ 1025216 (244.1M) Linux
> swap /dev/hda8 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root-8 19531251 @
> 1525217 ( 9.3G) Linux native /dev/hda9 Apple_Bootstrap boot
> 1954 @ 21056468 (977.0k) NewWorld bootblock /dev/hda10
> Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root 19531251 @ 21058422 ( 9.3G) Linux
> native /dev/hda11 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 root-11 19531251 @
> 40589673 ( 9.3G) Linux native /dev/hda12 Apple_Free Extra
> 100715556 @ 60120924 ( 48.0G) Free space
>
> Block size=512, Number of Blocks=160836480
> DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
> Drivers-
> 1: @ 64 for 21, type=0x701
> 2: @ 118 for 34, type=0xf8ff
>
> /dev/sda
> # type name length base ( size
> ) system /dev/sda1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1
> ( 31.5k) Partition map /dev/sda2 Apple_Driver43 Macintosh
> 54 @ 64 ( 27.0k) Driver 4.3 /dev/sda3
> Apple_Driver43 Macintosh 74 @ 118 ( 37.0k) Driver 4.3
> /dev/sda4 Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh 512 @ 192
> (256.0k) Unknown /dev/sda5 Apple_Patches Patch Partition
> 512 @ 704 (256.0k) Unknown /dev/sda6 Apple_HFS untitled
> 1024000 @ 1216 (500.0M) HFS /dev/sda7 Apple_UNIX_SVR2
> root 6291456 @ 1025216 ( 3.0G) Linux native /dev/sda8
> Apple_UNIX_SVR2 swap 1126920 @ 7316672 (550.3M) Linux swap
>
> Block size=512, Number of Blocks=8443591
> DeviceType=0x0, DeviceId=0x0
> Drivers-
> 1: @ 64 for 23, type=0x1
> 2: @ 118 for 36, type=0xffff
>
>
> Output of lspci and lspci -n:
>
> 0000:00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. Bandit PowerPC host
> bridge (rev 03) 0000:00:10.0 ff00: Apple Computer Inc. O'Hare I/O (rev 01)
> 0000:00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip
> 21041 [Tulip Pass 3] (rev 21) 0000:00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI
> Technologies Inc 3D Rage I/II 215GT [Mach64 GT] (rev 41)
>
> 0000:00:0b.0 0600: 106b:0001 (rev 03)
> 0000:00:10.0 ff00: 106b:0007 (rev 01)
> 0000:00:11.0 0200: 1011:0014 (rev 21)
> 0000:00:12.0 0300: 1002:4754 (rev 41)
>
>
>
> Base System Installation Checklist:
> [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
>
> Initial boot worked: [o] Note 0 and 1
> Configure network HW: [e] Note 2
> Config network: [o] Note 2
> Detect CD: [e] Note 3
> Load installer modules: [o]
> Detect hard drives: [e] Note 3
> Partition hard drives: [o] Note 0 and 4
> Create file systems: [o]
> Mount partitions: [o]
> Install base system: [o] Note 5 and 7
> Install boot loader: [ ] Note 0
> Reboot: [e] Note 3 and 6
>
> Comments/Problems:
>
> <Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments
> and ideas you had during the initial install.>
>
> Note 0:
>
> I used MacOS-9 and the BootX boot loader. I skipped the "install boot
> loader" phase of d-i, as a consequence.
>
> Because of the need to preserve the MacOS-9 partition on the disk, I
> used the manual partition option in the Partition Hard Drive phase.
>
>
> Note 1:
>
> During the language/keyboard choice phase, I took all the defaults
> (Language->English, Region->UnitedStates, KeyboardType->USB) until it
> came to the Keymap choice. There the default was "European". This is
> *not* what I expected -- or what was the default behavior in the past!
> Having done everything possible to indicate that I was in the USA and
> speaking English, I would have expected the default keymap to be
> AmericanEnglish.
>
> A serious violation of the principle of least astonishment.
>
>
> Note 2:
>
> In spite of what lspci says about the ethernet chip being a "Tulip",
> it seems to much prefer the "d4x5" driver. I can find nothing in the
> output of lspci or in the /proc/device-tree structure that would give
> a clue that this is the case. Does anybody know what the difference
> between the two drivers is?
>
> In any case, the network initial configuration phases tried to load
> the "tulip" driver, but failed to activate the interface with that
> driver, so I had to chose the d4x5 driver manually from the fall-back
> list of network drivers.
>
> I successfully configured the network addresses/names/etc manually.
> That part seems to have been fixed.
>
>
> Note 3:
>
> The CD-rom drive is on the apple "mesh" scsi controller. I had go to
> the F2 console and manually "modprobe mesh" to get it to recognize the
> CD-ROM drive and the SCSI disk. Because the mesh driver module was
> loaded behind d-i's back (so to speak), d-i didn't know about it, and
> as a result, "mesh" wasn't present in /etc/modules after the reboot.
>
> Many oldworld PowerMac's have the "mesh" scsi controller as their
> *only* (and in any case *primary*) mass-storage interface. Failure to
> load the mesh driver module will make it impossible for inexperienced
> users to install Debian on their machines. It seems to me that the
> mesh driver should be loaded by default on *all* oldworld PowerMac
> machines.
>
>
> Note 4:
>
> The partitioner seems to default to putting the "noatime" attribute on
> new ext3 partitions. This is a violation of the principle of least
> astonishment. The default should be standard UNIX behavior!
>
>
> Note 5:
>
> For reasons I don't entirely understand, wget does not recover well
> from occasional dropped packets, so it times-out and fails during the
> "install base system" phase. Retrying the phase works (usually,
> barring another dropped packet). This is a common enough problem that
> it would seem a good idea to automatically re-try a failing wget a few
> times before giving up and bugging the user.
>
>
> Note 6:
>
> Prior to the reboot, I tried to "Save debug logs" to a floppy disk.
> It failed because "No floppy device was found". The oldworld Macs all
> use the "swim3" floppy controller.
>
> Attempting to manually "modprobe floppy" from the F2 console gives the
> error:
>
> FATAL: Error inserting floppy
> (/lib/modules/2.6.8-powerpc/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko),
> Device or resource busy
>
> Interestingly, floppy.ko has date "Jan 1 1970". All other modules in
> that directory have date "Aug 26 14:53". Strange...
>
>
> Note 7:
>
> The default kernel that is offered in the base install phase is 2.6.7,
> even though the d-i is running under the 2.6.8 kernel. When I
> manually chose to install the 2.6.8 kernel, the reboot failed. It
> hung very early in the boot process -- before the Tux Penguin image
> was supposed to appear at the top of the screen.
>
> I had to go back and re-do the install and accept the default 2.6.7
> kernel. Very strange!
>
>
>
>
> Install logs and other status info is available in
> /var/log/debian-installer/. Once you have filled out this report, mail it
> to submit@bugs.debian.org.
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