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Re: Debian installer for Apple XServe

On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 12:47:22PM +0100, Pip Oomen wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> >Do you have RAID on that machine's disk ? This may be one of the
> >problems.
> RAID is supported on the machine, but not used. The nightly of march 
> 25th has the same problem as the nightly from the 22th, i.e. it boots 
> correctly, but the debian-installer never presents its 'initial' screen 
> (although it is running).

The one about choosing languages and such ? 

> >Huh ? What do you mean by partitioning section ? 
> The place where you decide (or let the installer decide) what partitions 
> on what disk you want. But since the detection process does not find any 
> hard disk drives, the partitioning fails, and hence install is useless.

Ok, understood. I really need the dmesg (or /var/log/messages) output.

> >>With nightly 20040322 it does boot the installer kernel (and I do 
> >>get vc's on 2/3, etc) but the debian-installer process just sits there 
> >>with a black screen and a block cursor in the lower left-hand corner.
> >At which moment is that ?
> The process list show the debian-installer is running, but it never 
> presents anything. So, kernel loading goes fine, and init is started, 
> but the main process started by init (debian-installer) just sits there 
> waiting for something... killing it (or its subprocesses) off, just 
> restarts it into the same situation ;)

Very weird.

> >Also, the early march di used the 2.4.22 kernel still, while we are
> >using 2.4.25 now. I don't remember exactly when the change was. Can you
> >try booting the corresponding 2.4.25 and 2.4.22 kernels, and see what it
> >does say about your disk.
> Further inspection of stuff detected by the running kernel shows that 
> there is no problem with detection of the IDE interface (/dev/hda -> 
> cdrom), but the IDE disk does not show up at all. Looks to me this is 
> related to a kernel configure option, or worse, a missing/invalid driver 
> for the IDE drives on Xserve.

Yes. I am not familiar enough with pmac hardware though.

> The early march installer worked better in that the debian installer at 
> least asked me things. That is not happening with the most recent 
> builds. However, it looks like the kernel has a problem with proper 
> detection of the disk(s) attached to the system.

It was using the 2.4.22 kernel though, this may be the difference.

> Are the CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC* enabled for the kernel?

Yeah : 


Same on both kernels.

> [ on a sidenote, where can I find the kernel-configs that are used by 
> the installer kernel? ]

in the package they are coming from. I am not sure they are included in
the kernel .udeb, but they are in the corresponding kernel-image.deb. It
would be interesting to include them somewhere though, i will ask joeyh
about this.


Sven Luther

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