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Re: sid 12 Avril 2003 CD 1 iso is broken

On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 09:45:14PM +0200, Eric Valette wrote:
> Tony D'Amato wrote:
> >sid is the unstable debian tree, and there's really a good
> >reason why it's called unstable - if something breaks, you get
> >to keep the pieces. *grin*
> I've been testing sid myself on my desktop for 4 months and I'm pretty 
> satisfied so far... And it enables to use 2.5.x kernel without too much 
> trouble...
> >Seriously, IMHO I wouldn't use it. Get a hold of the latest
> >stable (I think it's still 3.0r1) and once installed, point to
> >testing and install from there.
> If you do that on a 2Ghz P4 without ACPI, DRI/ATI non free drivers, NTFS 
> and other ATI video drivers stuffs you will
> 	1) Probably damage your laptop due to excessive heat,
> 	2) Get nothing from you video card for TV and video projectors (BTW 
> Xfree 3.X would help with ATI)
> 	3) Cannot accees your NT files and I'm not prepared to switch  away 
> from XP for all the reasosn mentionned above. I seldom use XP and my 
> desktop,
> So, like it or not, to run linux on a laptop today, you need to be on 
> the bleeding edge...
> I understand sid is the right place for testing the new installer but 
> putting a *totally* non working one in the ISO image instead of the good 
> old stable/testing one + the sid packages makes no sense to me. I use 
> the CD to avoid downloading 2.5 GB of files...

It shouldn't be so hard to understand. The new installer is made 
up of more than 20 individual modules, each of which are uploaded 
as separate packages. These of course have some interactions, and
work is in progress on many of them at once. No attempt is made
to test them collectively with some given set of package versions
before uploading any one to unstable. Therefore, anything can be broken
at any time. That's what people have tried to explain that unstable
is mainly for: to verify packages' interaction with other packages.

When packages move into testing, there has been some effort made 
to determine that the set of packages that move are compatible.

The fact that people make ISO images of sid also makes no sense.  
It's not prevented, but that doesn't mean it makes any sense.  It's a
target that moves hour by hour, there is no way it could be claim to
be a "distribution" or to have been tested in any way.


Chris Tillman
- Linux Rox -

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