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Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: no boot floppies for testing))



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tollef Fog Heen" <tollef@add.no>
To: <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Bug#174335: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335:
acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#174335: no boot floppies for testing))


> * "Cassandra Lynette Brockett"
>
> | But where in the documentation does it mention that boot-floppies
> | are being EOL-ed?  I only found this out after people started
> | yelling at me because I wanted to add some more functionality to the
> | boot-floppies, and so far I still am yet to find out information on
> | how to actually install using debian-installer.
>
> I've sent out monthly announcements on the progress of
> debian-installer for about six months to debian-devel-announce.  The
> release of the alpha version was both slashdotted and featured on
> Debianplanet.  So, I wouldn't call it very secret or hidden.  True,
> it's not documented on the web pages, but if you intend to help out
> with Debian development, debian-devel-announce is one of the more
> important lists to be subscribed to.

I only have time to read so many mailing lists a day, so far debian-boot is
the only full-flowing debian list I actually subscribe to (I am also
subscribed to the debian-security-announce list).  I am on about ten-twelve
other lists, on various subjects, and so I need to be choosey about which
lists I read... high-volume lists are right down on the bottom of my list of
choices though.

The problem is that there is no documentation on the main website mentioning
the new installer (at least not easily discovered... I'll explain below).
This makes the system "secret or hidden" in my opinion.  If I can't find
from a search on www.debian.org the information, then I must say it makes
life difficult to be able to find information on it.

> Searching for «debian-installer» on google turns up
> cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/doc/ as the first link.  I do not know
> why the search engine on www.debian.org does not search
> cvs.debian.org, nor lists.debian.org.

I finally found the information with a link from
http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ , which for some reason the search
engine didn't pick up, and isn't referenced anywhere else I could find on
the site... I only found it about five minutes ago as well.

Of course, the CVS archive there is a little under-documented (but then
again, it is alpha software at the moment I understand, so I can handle
that).

> | Well, there are some of us who want to help, and make changes to the
> | system to improve it, there are also others who have great ideas,
> | but can't code to save their life, and expecting those users to come
> | up with code patches because you don't want to see messages asking
> | for improvements just ranks high on my list of wrong.
>
> As the last status report says:
>
> : If you want to help out, please take a look at
> : http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html and especially the TODO list
> : at http://url.raw.no/?101
>
> You can find the full alpha announcement at
>
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200
212/msg00002.html
> (sorry about the long link), which should get you started.
>
> Hope this helps.

I actually found it about five minutes ago via another link, but thanks for
sending me the message anyhow... basically my message was sent to
(hopefully) remind some people that just saying "RTFM" does not always help,
as not everything is in the manual... :-)

Regards,
    Cassandra



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