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Re: State of Debian blends, notes and questions on debian-ezgo

Hi shirish,

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:08:05PM +0000, shirish शिरीष wrote:
> I have been a user of Debian for about a decade or so and am looking
> an introductory article on the debian-pure blends concept for
> itsfoss.com [1] . It can be seen that I have been writing about
> Debian-related topics for sometime.  For research I looked into [2]
> and [3] as well as [4] to have some more understanding of where things
> stand, seeing last 6-8 months of discussions on the lists.
> I did remove some obsolete documentation from the wiki trivial IMHO
> [5] [6] .

Thanks a lot for these fixes.  Should I say I'm happy you did not found
even more outdated information? ;-)  I admit the documentation about
Blends is nothing I'm really proud about ...

> I am somewhat stumped by [7]  which links to DebianPAN [8]
> but is not listed in blends-tasks [9],  more precisely in -
> $ cat /usr/share/tasksel/descs/debian-blends-tasks.desc
> The debian-blends-tasks.desc has no info. about what the Debian-PAN
> blend is all about. Either a bug or an oversight ?

As far as I remember it is intended by the driver (Frédéric in CC) since
he not felt it to be ready.  At least no metapackages were released so

> @ Frankling Weng - could you share the github repo. of the ezgo repo.
> at github and what is the state of the rewrite of the phet simulations
> as shared in [10]  - more precisely -
> " https://phet.colorado.edu/
> Simulations for math/science/biology/... etc.  Simulations were
> created by Java applets and flash before, and now they are rewriting
> them in HTML5.
> We have offline versions of their simulations in our ezgo system, so
> that kids without network can play too.
> However the whole offline packages are more than 700MB and after
> gzip'ed it was more than 500 MB too. "

Franklin's last message about this was here:


Jonas' and my answer to this (addressing the code copy issue) are
not answered yet.
> Look forward to getting more info.

I'd recommend watching videos of my talks at DebConf.  Specifically
I'd like to recommen


which has not Blends inside the title which might have been the reason
that it went into the main audience room and attracted a larger audience
than those talks with Blends inside the title (specifically the
discussion starting at about 30min is interesting - key statements after
38min).  My personal interpretation of this effect is that lots of
people in Debian miss the point that Blends can have a lot of
advertising power.  At my talks page


you can find slides and videos of several Blends related talks.  One
slide I'm continuously updating over years is this one:


Honestly speaking I consider my pet project Debian Med in principle not
a very important topic for Debian since medicine and life sciences are
rather a niche usage of Debian.  This makes it even more impressive that
despite this a niche project running "the right way" (tm) = following
the Blends way, has attracted one developer per year which makes about
2% of all Debian developers.  How many gifted developers would we able
to attract if we would create more Blends?

Thanks a lot for your interest and your intention to write an article
about Blends


PS: Sorry for using inline links to not mess up to much with your
    longish link list.
> 1. https://itsfoss.com/author/shirish/
> 2. https://www.debian.org/blends/
> 3. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends
> 4. https://lists.debian.org/debian-blends/
> 5. https://wiki.debian.org/Kudzu?action=info
> 6. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends?action=info
> 7. https://wiki.debian.org/Blends/TasksPages
> 8. https://blends.debian.org/pan/tasks/
> 9. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/blends
> 10. https://lists.debian.org/debian-blends/2019/01/msg00001.html
> 11. https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulations/category/html


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