Re: Summary of the workshop on CDDs held in Valencia
On Wed, 12 May 2004, Free Ekanayaka wrote:
> Last but not least, a preliminary collection of pictures of the event
> can be viewed here:
>
> http://alvin.homelinux.net/bins2004/
Nice. ;-)
> Furthermore the presence of Richard Stallman from the Free Software
> Foundation and Jon Hall from Linux International contributed to the
> visibility of the event.
I guess Jon would like to pronounced as Jon "maddog" Hall ... ;-)
But this is not so important as perhaps RMS want you to pronounce the GNU
in front of Linux. :)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Name: AGNULA/DeMuDi
> URL: http://www.agnula.org
> Attendants: Free Ekanayaka
> Committee: Formerly funded by the European Commission, now
> voluntary project economically supported by Firenze
> Tecnologia [3]
> Target users: Musicians, researchers, audio professionals
>
> Currently a semi-official CDD, in the sense that part of the packages
> are already in Debian and a Debian Multimedia mailing list
> exists. Free Ekanayaka is in the process to become a Debian Developer
> and once he gets in he'll upload to Debian the rest of his packages.
> Moreover he is closely following the debian-custom mailing list, and
> working to improve the cdd-dev package and make the A/DeMuDi meta
> packages compliant with the emerging CDD guidelines.
Time to upload the first meta packages. ;-)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Speaker: Javier Vinuales
> When: May 7th, morning
> Slides: http://www.miu-ft.org/~free/200405-valencia/adaptando_debian_a_sab=
> ores_locales.pdf
>
> After a brief presentation of the Guadalinex project, Javier
> introduced the issue of the Debian release system, which currently
> makes difficult for a CDD to base its releases on Debian stable.
>
> Then he described some possible modifications to the Debian archive
> and release system, which are partly mentioned in Andreas' document
> on the CDDs [5].
I tried to adopt the (at least for me) main important idea of the
different way for distributing Debian under
http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd/ch-todo.en.html#s-new_ways_of_distribution
(Search for "testing_proposed_updated" for exactly Javier's suggestion and
correct me if I did not understand him right.)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Speaker: Sergio Talens-Oliag
> When: May 7th, afternoon
> Slides: Speech only
> ...
> Andreas asked him about the relationship with the
> Skolelinux/Debian-Edu project, and he explained that they are going to
> study and reuse Skolelinux/Debian-Edu work whenever possible,
> furthermore the LlureX team is willing to try to cooperate with any
> similar project. However the need of a having separate distribution
> still holds, partly because of some issues related with localisation
> and partly because the included applications may divert.
Here I might add my suggestion for a possible solution:
Enhance DDTP to get translation for other things than only package
descriptions.
> Then Sergio went into the question of the Debian release/archiving
> system and the implications it has on some important issues, as the
> need for LlureX to have deadlines and independent releases, with the
> relative stable updates. He analysed the possibility of maintaining an
> external (i.e. non-Debian) APT repository as a temporary workaround,
> waiting for better implementations of the Debian release/archive
> system.
IMHO the solution was given in Javier's talk or the URL I provided above.
Please consider this seriousely. As well as Debian-Edu was the spin off
for the new debian-installer I see no reason why CDDs should not be the
driving force in finding a new way for distribution and enhancing the
release cycle.
> Here follows a not exhaustive list of the main issues which emerged
> orthogonally in all talks and conversations and that need further
> reports and discussion.
>
> o Debconf pre-feeding approach for customising packages
Location for cf.engine scripts:
http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd/ch-todo.en.html#s-EnhancingTechnology
> o Improvements to the current Debian archive/release system
(see URL above)
> o Easy creation of custom Live CDs and installers
http://people.debian.org/~tille/cdd/ch-todo.en.html#s-liveCD
> As these are wide topics I'll let separate post to cover them.
OK.
I might add that an updated cdd-doc package just hit the archive and you
are able to follow all the links I posted offline if you like or read it
in the PDF inside ...
Thanks to Free for his summary
Andreas.
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