Re: realtime-module-2.6.5-1_0.0.4-3+2.6.5-3_i386.changes ACCEPTED (fwd)

[Free Ekanayaka <free@agnula.org>]

>>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:36:02 +0200 (CEST), guenter geiger <geiger@xdv.org> said:

    guenter> On Tue, 11 May 2004, tim hall wrote:
    >> Guenter,
    >> 
    >> I've been considering upgrading my kernel for a while, I'm
    >> currently still running a 2.4.22 (Agnula) kernel and a
    >> non-canonical mixture of testing and Agnula/DeMuDi-1.1.0
    >> packages at the moment. I'm wondering how much trouble I would
    >> be letting myself in for if I was to make such a jump with the
    >> kernel.

    guenter> Hi Tim,

    guenter> The Debian (and Demudi) kernels are setup in a way so
    guenter> that you can always double boot, that means if you
    guenter> install a new kernel, you can still access the old one
    guenter> using the linux.old boot entry (which is an advantage if
    guenter> the new kernel does not work for your system). So, by
    guenter> installing a new kernel you should loose nothing.

    guenter> If you do not like the new one, just boot the old one.

Yes, I'm currently running a patched 2.4.25,  but at times I boot into
2.6.4 for testing and experimenting.

I'll manage to find some time to test 2.6.5+realtime too.

    >> I'm still relatively new to Debian Multimedia, I've been using
    >> it for a year & a half and I am wary of ending up with a broken
    >> system, naturally. I'll be running it on an i810 chipset and
    >> I'm wondering if this kernel is going to be stable enough to be
    >> able to get on with making music or whether this is really a
    >> mission for a non-production machine and a more experienced
    >> user.

    guenter> Hard to tell. As there are so many different hardware
    guenter> setups, there is never a guaranty that things that were
    guenter> working will still do in 2.6.  But then some thing that
    guenter> weren't, may.  One reason for having the
    guenter> unstable/testing/stable cycle is to be able to collect as
    guenter> much information as possible about the stability of the
    guenter> system. Of course if no-one would use and test the
    guenter> unstable and testing stuff this could not work out.

    >> Now that the Agnula/DeMuDi-1.1.1 live CD is here, I'm thinking
    >> of replacing my Woody install with that, this way I can still
    >> be of use to the Agnula team.  However I'd also like to keep my
    >> testing/unstable install relatively up to date - I generally
    >> try to stay under the threshold of known bugs unless
    >> dependencies force me to do otherwise.
    >> 
    guenter> Well, one good thing is that the AGNULA team will try to
    guenter> integrate more into Debian, I am currently uploading Paul
    guenter> Bossiers supercollider package, several other AGNULA
    guenter> packages are already in Debian (from Free Ekanayaka or
    guenter> Hans Fugal). This means that Demudi will be more or less
    guenter> a subset of the Debian packages, but with an installer,
    guenter> the wonderfull documentation of Dave Phillips and all the
    guenter> user support that is offered by the AGNULA/Demudi team.

Yes, this exactly the idea :) Of course we have to be patient.

    guenter> As of the Live CD. As a user it is most of the time a
    guenter> pleasant experience having a knoppix based distribution
    guenter> installed, up to the time when you want to
    guenter> upgrade. Knoppix uses some non standard (non Debian)
    guenter> startup scripts which partly depend on the way the
    guenter> Knoppix packages are setup.  (or, the Debian packages
    guenter> that Knoppix uses at that time). The problem that you can
    guenter> have with that is that if you like to upgrade your system
    guenter> to a more recent Debian snapshot, these scripts may break
    guenter> because they are somehow "out of the system".

I strongly  suggest  to  *not* install  the DeMuDi   live CD.   I know
everybody is    tempted to  do   that, but  you   really get something
difficult to manage.

If you really want/need    to upgrade please   do it   against  debian
testing, which in this moment seems rather  stable with respect to the
audio applications.

cheers,

free