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Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports



On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Ben Hutchings wrote:

> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 07:50 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 11:13 -0600, Xan Charbonnet wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > Is a Meltdown fix for the wheezy-backports kernel (3.16) on the way? 
> > > > Thanks very much!
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry to tell you that wheezy-backports has not been supported for
> > > nearly a year now.  This was never widely announced (I can no longer
> > > find the announcement) and I think this end-of-life was handled
> > > extremely badly by the backports administrators.
> > 
> > It was handled badly by the backporters. I really hope you don't expect 
> > the administrators to do the backports.  There was a discussion and nearly
> > noone was in favour of doing those backports. 
> 
> I was happy to continue backporting linux, but I accept that it would
> be hard to explain that some small subset of packages was supported.  I
> don't object to the decision itself.
> 
> > And of course we announced it - as we always do announce changes:
> >
> > https://backports.debian.org/news/stretch-backports/
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2017/06/msg00055.html
> 
> The announcement is nominally about stretch-backports, so is not
> obviously relevant to someone who uses wheezy-backports.  In fact,
> *nowhere* does it explicitly mention wheezy-backports; several times it
> mentions squeeze-backports instead.  The reader has to work hard to see
> that "LTS" means this is actually ending wheezy-backports as well as
> squeeze-backports.
> 
> Secondly, this message was only sent to debian-backports (general
> discussion) and not to debian-backports-announce.  So it's no wonder
> that some users didn't see it.
> 
> Finally, wheezy-backports remains part of the main archive, which
> normally implies that it's a supported suite.  It should have been
> moved to archive.debian.org.  The resulting error messages from "apt-
> get update" would reach those users who didn't see the announcement.
> 
> So, please make a more explicit announcement and get wheezy-backports
> removed from the main archive.
In fact it went to -announce. But it never left moderation (my fault). But to
be fair, we also never announce support for LTS. 

I will write a short announcement later. 

Alex

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