Re: Opening Squeeze backports
Hi!
* Marc Haber <mh+debian-backports@zugschlus.de> [2010-12-10 19:04:53 CET]:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 02:05:04PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > * Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> [2010-12-10 13:56:06 CET]:
> > > On 12/10/2010 06:26 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > > > On Freitag, 10. Dezember 2010, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > > >> Would you please tell why such restriction? Also, what are my options to
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >> solve this issue if I don't want to force my users to use SID
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > >> (especially at the time of the release, when there wont be Squeeze
> > > >> backports yet)?
> > > >
> > > > a personal repo?
> > >
> > > I do have that already, yes. But that's not what I was asking for.
> >
> > Actually, it was.
>
> Pardon me for jumping in, but I find the answers that Thomas has
> received from people whom I consider Debian Officials incredibly
> impolite.
Calling it "incredibly impolite" is a fair bit of an overreaction, and
I'm sorry that you feel that way. Granted, it was pretty terse, and it
might not had been the answer that Thomas was *expecing* but instead was
an answer to what he was *asking* for. But it wasn't meant impolite,
just simply pointing out that fact.
> I think it would be a good idea to explain _why_ there is not yet a
> squeeze backports repository other than "we don't want to do this
> right now".
Personally I consider the reason to be "obvious" by reading the
instructions, but given that obvious things often aren't that obvious I
like to state them explicit:
-) Backports is about backporting packages to a *stable* release. Given
that squeeze isn't stable yet this isn't the case. did you check e.g.
/etc/debian_version on a current and up-to-date squeeze system?
-) Like Sven helpfully also pointed out, there is no testing yet to
backport the packages from. Do you want to upload packages from
squeeze(testing) to squeeze-backports?
-) The buildd chroots will have to get created. Given that things
aren't completely smooth yet with the lenny-backports-sloppy chroots
I don't think it's best yet already to pester the buildd admins to set
up the squeeze-backports chroots already.
-) Again, because it seems to require special emphasis: squeeze isn't
stable yet.
-) Discussions on how bugreports might want to get received for
squeeze-backports haven't settled yet. Some people wanted to work on
debbugs to make it possible so that the BTS can hold the bugreports, and
we don't want to confuse the users mid-term on where and how to report
bugs to. This should be part of the announce text once it's clear wether
the BTS might be able to handle it in time or not.
Thanks for understanding,
Rhonda
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