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Re: From a newb

Jared Johnson schrieb am Monday, den 18. January 2010:


> Watching the thread regarding nginx, has given me hope and dread.  Being a new backporter I have
> been posting questions to the list for a few weeks now.  I am continuing on the way through the
> empathy backport after learning on some easier packages.  However, I am quite disappointed with the
> attitude toward us newbs.  But instead of hashing out more bad sentiments, I will offer some ideas
> to fix it.  First, a separate list for learning questions that can be monitored by others who wish
> to help.  Second, maybe the debian philosophy needs to be applied here by a mentor process where I
> or others could have direct contact with a backporter.  To first assist them, then they assist us,
> and then we move on to an official bpo uploader?  The first would be easier to setup, and would
> offer more mentors knowledge to be available (due to irl constraints of a 1-1 mentor system).
> Anyhow, please do not spam the list with any debate to this email.  Just a yea or nea would be nice
> unless someone can bring more positive ideas to the discussion:)
Maybe some people missed an important point here. This is the user list the
backports.org service. Its about backports.org, not about learning
packaging/backporting (of course its for specific questions about
backports(.org)). Therefore we (debian) have the official debian-mentors list

My target (I am the one who primary run that service for a few years) is to
provide high quality backports from experienced maintainers to users. Users
expect that packages in this repository can be used in production

That is the reason for the high hurdle for maintaining packages in backports. 

Somewhere in the near future backports.org will get backports.debian.org,
after that point we will get even more attention than before. Which means for
my part to get a bigger team, more tools and more attention to each backport
and for backporters it also means more work as I expect some of them to take
more care about there backports. Rhonda for example is doing a great job in
taking care about security on backports. 

At last I have to say that my reaction to this thread wasn't optimal, I had
to point to a newbie list like debian-mentors instead of ranting. But my main
point - that maintaining packages on backports is not for packaging starters
is still valid in my eyes. 


[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors

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