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Re: contemplating conversion of an r-pi3b based system to a rock64

On Monday 04 September 2017 13:26:46 Alan Corey wrote:

> Try this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_Unifying_receiver
> It's sort of like Bluetooth without pairing.  Not sure about the FCC
> part but it's 2.4 GHz like Bluetooth or WiFi.
This mentioned solaar, so I installed it, big dbus miss-fires, so I went 
to the machine and looked at the dependencies & installed about a GB of 
those too. Including network-manager, which I excised asap.  Still  
nothing found, not even a logitech unifying receiver. Re-enabled wifi 
and BT in /boot.config.txt & rebooted. Got rid of the dbus squawks, but 
is now totally mute.  Killed the wifi and BT stuff by uncommenting the 
killer stuff in /boot/config.txt.

The only thing I have noted now is that the keyboard and mouse seem to be 
working normally for both reboots, whereas up till now its been a reboot 
until it sorta works. But so far I have not detected a missed key event.

Fingers very very carefully crossed in case the pile of stuff I did 
install, trying to make solaar work, was the actual problem in the first 

That was a rather lengthy list of stuff:

Start-Date: 2017-09-04  15:50:11
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic
libzeitgeist-2.0-0:armhf (0.9.14-2.2, automatic),
cracklib-runtime:armhf (2.9.2-1, automatic), 
zeitgeist-datahub:armhf (0.9.14-2.2, automatic),
gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic), 
gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0:armhf (0.99.1-3.2, automatic),
nautilus-data:armhf (3.14.1-2, automatic),
libteamdctl0:armhf (1.12-2, automatic),
libpam-gnome-keyring:armhf (3.14.0-1+b1, automatic),
openjdk-7-jre:armhf (7u131-2.6.9-2~deb8u1+rpi1, automatic),
network-manager:armhf (, automatic) (nuked), 
libtelepathy-logger3:armhf (0.8.1-1, automatic), 
libgnome-bluetooth13:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic),
gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2:armhf (0.8.1-1, automatic),
folks-common:armhf (0.10.0-1, automatic),
gnome-control-center:armhf (3.14.2-3, automatic),
wamerican:armhf (7.1-1, automatic),
apg:armhf (2.2.3.dfsg.1-2, automatic),
libical1a:armhf (1.0-1.3, automatic),
libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3:armhf (1.5.4-1, automatic),
cheese-common:armhf (3.14.1-2, automatic),
liblua5.2-0:armhf (5.2.3-1.1, automatic),
gnome-sushi:armhf (3.12.0-2+b1, automatic),
dnsmasq-base:armhf (2.76-5+rpi1, automatic),
ppp:armhf (2.4.6-3.1, automatic),
gstreamer1.0-clutter:armhf (2.0.12-1, automatic),
libgweather-3-6:armhf (3.14.1-1, automatic),
gir1.2-gcr-3:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic),
python-pycurl:armhf (7.19.5-3, automatic),
modemmanager:armhf (1.4.0-1, automatic),
gnome-user-share:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic), 
gnome-control-center-data:armhf (3.14.2-3, automatic),
libnm-glib4:armhf (, automatic),
libquvi-scripts:armhf (0.4.21-2, automatic),
apache2-bin:armhf (2.4.10-10+deb8u10, automatic),
libdbus-java:armhf (2.8-5, automatic),
gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0:armhf (3.14.1-1, automatic),
libebook-1.2-14:armhf (3.12.9~git20141128.5242b0-2+deb8u3, automatic), 
libcamel-1.2-49:armhf (3.12.9~git20141128.5242b0-2+deb8u3, automatic), 
libgnome-desktop-3-10:armhf (3.14.1-1, automatic),
libsane:armhf (1.0.24-8+deb8u2, automatic),
libdbusmenu-gtk3-4:armhf (12.10.2-1, automatic), 
telepathy-mission-control-5:armhf (5.16.3-1+b1, automatic), 
system-config-printer:armhf (1.4.6-1, automatic),
libndp0:armhf (1.4-2+deb8u1, automatic),
libmm-glib0:armhf (1.4.0-1, automatic),
libgssdp-1.0-3:armhf (0.14.10-1, automatic),
libfolks25:armhf (0.10.0-1+b2, automatic),
evolution-data-server:armhf (3.12.9~git20141128.5242b0-2+deb8u3, automat
libboost-date-time1.55.0:armhf (1.55.0+dfsg-3, automatic), 
zeitgeist-core:armhf (0.9.14-2.2, automatic),
gir1.2-clutter-1.0:armhf (1.20.0-1+rpi1, automatic), 
gir1.2-evince-3.0:armhf (3.14.1-2+deb8u2, automatic), 
librygel-core-2.4-2:armhf (0.24.2-1, automatic),
libgrilo-0.2-1:armhf (0.2.11-2, automatic), 
gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0:armhf (1.4.4-2+deb8u1, automatic), 
libgcr-base-3-1:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic),
p11-kit-modules:armhf (0.20.7-1, automatic),
libgmime-2.6-0:armhf (2.6.20-1, automatic), 
libmission-control-plugins0:armhf (5.16.3-1+b1, automatic), 
libmozjs-24-0:armhf (24.2.0-2, automatic),
libsane-common:armhf (1.0.24-8+deb8u2, automatic),
gir1.2-soup-2.4:armhf (2.48.0-1+deb8u1, automatic),
libmnl0:armhf (1.0.3-5, automatic),
libpwquality1:armhf (1.2.3-1, automatic), 
gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-3.0:armhf (2.4.1-1rpi53rpi1g, automatic), 
libiptcdata0:armhf (1.0.4-4, automatic),
gdm3:armhf (3.14.1-7, automatic),
xwayland:armhf (1.18.4-2+rpi1, automatic),
liboauth0:armhf (1.0.1-1, automatic),
gir1.2-caribou-1.0:armhf (0.4.15-1, automatic),
liblua5.1-0:armhf (5.1.5-7.1, automatic),
gir1.2-json-1.0:armhf (1.0.2-1, automatic),
mousetweaks:armhf (3.12.0-1, automatic),
libclutter-gtk-1.0-0:armhf (1.6.0-1, automatic),
hwdata:armhf (0.267-1, automatic),
libcaribou-common:armhf (0.4.15-1, automatic),
libprotobuf9:armhf (2.6.1-1, automatic),
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:armhf (1.4.4-2+deb8u1, automatic), 
libdleyna-connector-dbus-1.0-1:armhf (0.2.0-1, automatic), 
gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.12:armhf (0.24.1-1, automatic),
colord-data:armhf (1.2.1-1, automatic),
libpwquality-common:armhf (1.2.3-1, automatic), 
ca-certificates-java:armhf (20140324, automatic),
mutter-common:armhf (3.14.4-1~deb8u1+rpi1, automatic),
libpcap0.8:armhf (1.6.2-2, automatic), 
mobile-broadband-provider-info:armhf (20140317-1, automatic), 
gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0:armhf (1.4.4-2+deb8u1, automatic), 
gnome-contacts:armhf (3.14.1-1, automatic),
libgdata19:armhf (0.16.1-1, automatic),
openjdk-7-jre-headless:armhf (7u131-2.6.9-2~deb8u1+rpi1, automatic), 
libcolorhug2:armhf (1.2.1-1+b2, automatic),
gir1.2-atspi-2.0:armhf (2.14.0-1, automatic),
libneon27-gnutls:armhf (0.30.1-1, automatic),
dconf-cli:armhf (0.22.0-1, automatic),
libapache2-mod-dnssd:armhf (0.6-3.1, automatic), 
gnome-settings-daemon:armhf (3.14.2-3+deb8u1, automatic), l
ibdbusmenu-glib4:armhf (12.10.2-1, automatic),
gnome-session-bin:armhf (3.14.0-2, automatic),
libedata-book-1.2-20:armhf (3.12.9~git20141128.5242b0-2+deb8u
3, automatic),
nautilus:armhf (3.14.1-2, automatic),
libebook-contacts-1.2-0:armhf (3.12.9~git20141128.5242b0-2+deb8u3, 
libappindicator3-1:armhf (0.4.92-3.1, automatic), 
libmatthew-debug-java:armhf (0.7.3-1, automatic),
libgdata-common:armhf (0.16.1-1, automatic),
python-cups:armhf (1.9.63-1, automatic),
libnm-gtk0:armhf (, automatic),
gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0:armhf (, automatic), 
libopencore-amrnb0:armhf (0.1.3-2.1, automatic),
libcogl-pango20:armhf (1.18.2-3+rpi1, automatic), 
system-config-printer-udev:armhf (1.4.6-1, automatic), 
evolution-data-server-common:armhf (3.12.9~git20141128.5242b0-2+deb8u3, 
notification-daemon:armhf (0.7.6-2, automatic),
gnome-shell:armhf (3.14.4-1~deb8u1, automatic), 
libnetfilter-conntrack3:armhf (1.0.4-1, automatic),
libsane-extras:armhf (, automatic),
libqmi-glib1:armhf (1.10.2-2, automatic),
libclutter-1.0-0:armhf (1.20.0-1+rpi1, automatic),
libexempi3:armhf (2.2.1-2, automatic),
python-zeitgeist:armhf (0.9.14-2.2, automatic),
gnome-keyring:armhf (3.14.0-1+b1, automatic),
cups-pk-helper:armhf (0.2.5-2, automatic),
libcheese-gtk23:armhf (3.14.1-2, automatic),
gir1.2-gck-1:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic),
libfolks-eds25:armhf (0.10.0-1+b2, automatic),
zeitgeist:armhf (0.9.14-2.2, automatic),
libtwolame0:armhf (0.3.13-1.1, automatic),
libgcr-ui-3-1:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic),
libsidplay1:armhf (1.36.59-6, automatic),
eject:armhf (2.1.5+deb1+cvs20081104-13.1+deb8u1, automatic), 
libdee-1.0-4:armhf (1.0.10-3.1, automatic),
iputils-arping:armhf (20121221-5, automatic),
gnome-bluetooth:armhf (3.14.0-2+b1, automatic),
xserver-xephyr:armhf (1.18.4-2+rpi1, automatic), 
libatk-wrapper-java-jni:armhf (0.30.5-1, automatic), 
gir1.2-cogl-1.0:armhf (1.18.2-3+rpi1, automatic),
libgusb2:armhf (0.1.6-5, automatic),
libcogl20:armhf (1.18.2-3+rpi1, automatic),
libgnomekbd8:armhf (3.6.0-1, automatic),
libgnomekbd-common:armhf (3.6.0-1, automatic),
libmediaart-1.0-0:armhf (0.7.0-2, automatic),

And thats about 25% of what was listed as desirable dependencies for 

Can you spell ridiculous? I don't think I can. Assinine maybe.

Can we say the Unified Receiver stuff came and went without a whimper?

> On 9/4/17, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> > On Monday 04 September 2017 12:07:56 Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 06:31:46AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> > But aren't the huge majority of the wireless keyboards and mice
> >> > just BT at the core?  Max reliable range when the dongles can see
> >> > the master is about 20 feet. I put the mouse in the box the pi is
> >> > in, and had BT do a scan with bluetoothctl, while I jiggled the
> >> > mouse, nothing detected.
> >>
> >> Certainly Logitech's wireless is not BT.  I seem to recall reading
> >> that they found BT way too unreliable and instead use their own
> >> protocol. Not sure about other makes.
> >
> > But unless they are sneaking in under the FCC's radar, which they
> > aren't else customs would padlock the container, it does have to be
> > an FCC approved frequency and protocol in order to be able to label
> > it with an FCC iD # of JNZYR0017 on the bottom of this K360. It also
> > has regulatory labels from at least a dozen other national
> > regulatory agencies from all over the planet.  A very busy label. So
> > the frequency and protocol are supposedly known to the various
> > regulatory agencies.  The above Jnumber doesn't not search in their
> > database, at least not those pieces I can access.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

Cheers, Gene Heskett
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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