Re: creating official Debian images for ARM-based NAS devices
On 13/04/16 17:26, Roger Shimizu wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro> wrote:
>> On 13/04/16 15:24, Roger Shimizu wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro> wrote:
>>>> On 13 April 2016 13:04:45 CEST, Roger Shimizu <rogershimizu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a look at the instructions[1] for preparing firmware for the
>>>>>> Seagate NAS[2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a link to download a binary image file that somebody has
>>>>>> already prepared and instructions to prepare an image file yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has there been any discussion about automating the creation of such
>>>>>> images and distributing them on Debian mirrors, just like the
>>>>> installer
>>>>>> DVD images? Should this be raised with the debian-cd team perhaps or
>>>>>> would it be owned by some other team in Debian or would it be
>>>>> considered
>>>>>> a derivative or blend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. http://wiki.konilabs.net/en/seagate-nas/debian-install
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>> http://www.seagate.com/gb/en/products/network-attached-storage/business-storage/seagate-nas/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not familiar with your device, but since the chipset seems to be
>>>>> armhf, so the official image can be downloaded from archive:
>>>>> -
>>>>> http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-armhf/current/images/
>>>>>
>>>>> And here's the manual:
>>>>> - https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/armhf/ch04s02.html.en
>>>>
>>>> My question was about ready-to-run images (similar to live DVD) that can be flashed into the device rather than an installer, is there anything more close to this requirement?
>>>
>>> Live DVD is usually for rescue. And installer image can do for this
>>> purpose, too.
>>>
>>
>> There are several scenarios where people can actually fulfill their use
>> case using a live DVD, the Debian TAILS project being a good example
>>
>>
>>> If you want to get a pure debian running environment for your NAS,
>>> it's also recommended to install from official installer.
>>>
>>> Above 2 links are Jessie (current stable) images, which may don't
>>> contain the image for your device.
>>> I noticed that in another thread [0], which you're already in, Martin
>>> mentioned Seagate NAS will be supported soon.
>>> So you can wait for it, which will firstly appear on d-i daily build [1].
>>>
>>> [0] https://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2016/04/msg00044.html
>>> [1] https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/
>>>
>>
>> I understand that the installer can be used on these platforms and
>> personally I'd be quite comfortable using the installer.
>>
>> However, I'm thinking about whether or not Debian can engage more users
>> by providing an experience similar to OpenWRT. OpenWRT builds
>> ready-to-run images that people can flash into their devices, reboot and
>> get started. There is no need for the user to run through all the
>> installer questions, on many devices they can simply log in to the
>> standard admin page, upload the OpenWRT image through a web form and it
>> starts running with default settings.
>
> So your idea is like debian-installer without installer, but with
> webmin (or other light alternative).
> It's interesting, indeed.
> You can start to work on it.
>
Something like this is probably not a single-person project, it may need
some coordination between different teams to agree exactly how Debian
will build and release the images. It is no good if I come up with some
solution to build such images and nobody wants to distribute them.
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