Re: Debain arm on a nokia N800
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:04:58 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote:
>
>
>> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:33:43 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> ...snip...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Which one should I use for this? I'm currently running the factory-
>>>>> installed OS2007.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> You're running OS 2007 (bora), most of the instructions assume you're
>>>> running OS2008 (chinook) or OS2008.1 (diablo).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> So it looks as if the first thing I have to do is upgrade to OS2008
>>> (chinook) Or to diablo. Is diablo stable enough for an end-user yet?
>>> (Yes, in adition to wanting to get to where I can hack the machine, I
>>> also have to be able to use it as an end-user at any time throuh the
>>> process)
>>>
>>> Presumably I'll still have to get to be root first. Unless I can reflash
>>> to OS2008 witout gaining root. I'll still have to back up my contacts,
>>> my calendar, and my sketches first (that's the relevant state I have at
>>> this point), hoping their file formats will be consistent before and
>>> after the upgrade.
>>>
>>> What's the recommended way to back all this up so it'll be restorable in
>>> OS2008? My bora-made backups have to be restorable on OS2008. I heard
>>> that at one time, the backup tools provided wouldn't restore properly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I've been running diablo for at least 3 months now. It's stable for me.
>> chinook was also stable and I ran that on my N800 for 6 months before
>> upgrading to diablo. The browser switched form opera in OS2006 to a
>> firefox-based on in OS2008 and above. The web browsing is a little
>> different.
>>
>> You can reflash the tablet WITHOUT needing root on the tablet. You only
>> need root/admin on the PC/MAC that you are flashing with. You will need
>> the wifi address of your table in order to download the firmware image.
>>
>> I don't recall how well the system backup tool works when upgrading, so
>> I recommend that you perform three backups, using the following method:
>> 1. Use the system backup tool to backup to an SD card.
>>
>
> It backed up nicely.
>
>
>> 2. open a terminal and use the built-in tar utility to backup /home/user
>> to an tarball on the SD card
>>
>
> So did this.
>
>
>> 3. open the file manager and copy/move the Nokia N8X0 folder which
>> contains "Documents", "Images", etc to an SD card.
>>
>
> The file manager only displayed the subfolder, and I couldn't find a way
> to copy anything.
>
>
>> I do recall one glitch when upgrading. I had to pair my bluetooth
>> keyboard before restoring from backup. There was some bluetooth config
>> file in the backup that didn't work right.
>>
>
> No bluetooth jeyboard, so no problem here.
>
> The upgrade went smoothly. There was a glitch (it lost contact partway
> through the reflash), and I only got a partial upgrade, and it rebooted
> endlessly, but taking the battery out and putting it in agin stopped that.
> The next time I flashed it, everything worked.
>
>
>> After upgrading, try to restore the system backup.
>>
>
> The system backup did a fine restore. It warned me that the new system
> had a few files that were newer than the backup -- did I really want to
> replace them? I said no.
>
>
>> If that fails,
>> restore from the other two methods. Settings like wifi hotspots are lost
>> when restoring from method 3 and possibly method 2.
>>
>>> So, should I make a wiki page describing my trials, hoping someone who
>>> knows more can edit it into something resembling instructions? I don't
>>> feel confident enough about what's going on to make anything that
>>> sounds definitive, like the existing pages do.
>>>
>>>
>> You can create a new wiki page, but I suggest putting your steps on the
>> discussion tab of the relevant wiki page to help others.
>>
>
> Ah. That's the better place.
>
>
>>> I can't be the only one running bora in the world, can I?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> No, but you're definitely in the minority of people running bora and
>> trying to hack on the Nokia tablets. I would guess that those left
>> running bora either aren't developing on the tablet or are running a
>> N770 and are stuck with OS2007HE.
>>
>>> Probably from some other evanescent repository, back last January. Is
>>> that still the current version? I'm guessing not. Installing it
>>> certainly didn't ask me to change the root password.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know what the current version is.
>>
>
> Stting up a boot from SD card is next -- but first I'll have to get a
> suitable card. Does *G SDHC sound good?
>
I'm glad that the restore and upgrade went well for you. SDHC cards are
fine for the N8X0 tablets. I have a 4GB card in my N800. Others have
8GB. higher capacities should be fine.
I forgot to mention that one guy had a full debian arm distro running
under chroot in ITOS. I don't have the link, but thought that might
interest you.
Check back here or the maemo lists when you try to boot from the SD card.
Jason
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