On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 08:11:57AM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: > On 10/09/2014 02:41 AM, Tomasz Kundera wrote: > identified, and some real solutions offered, but it looks to me like systemd > needs a sober re-think. Sometimes we really can be too clever for our own > good. It is not "clever" to make things unnecessarily complex. Nor clever to ignore good computer science. Sorry, I know what you/OP meant, but let's try not to degrade language. ael