Re: Bug#366002: aiccu: Lack of AMD64 package
A Dimecres 10 Maig 2006 19:53, Anand Kumria va escriure:
> On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 10:32:21AM +0200, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote:
> > A Divendres 05 Maig 2006 12:23, Anand Kumria va escriure:
> > > On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:55:06PM +0200, William Anderle wrote:
> > > > Package: aiccu
> > > > Severity: wishlist
> > > >
> > > > Debian still lacks an AMD64 package of AICCU. Even tough this is a
> > > > feature request, the lack of this package is pretty severe. Other
> > > > distributions (FreeBSD, Gentoo) already provides a AMD64 build.
> > >
> > > Hi William,
> > >
> > > I do not have an AMD64 machine to build the package for; and
> > > (apparently) none of the autobuilders want to build this package
> > > (probably because it is non-free).
> > >
> > > You'll need to convince an autobuilder to build it, or do yourself. if
> > > you choose the latter option I can walk you through the process.
> >
> > I have read the licence and I don't see any important requeriment to not
> > be a Open Source or follow the debian policy. However, I'm not an expert,
> > so probably there's some detail that escapes from my poor knowledge .
>
> I don't understand how you can read the licence and fail to see aiccu is
> NOT Free Software. How do you resolve (for example) clause 5 of the licence
> with DFSG points 5 or 6.
It's simply. You reads a complex text with a lot of subtile sentences and not
having the deep knowledge of the language and the terminology says something
that probably an someone can refute. About the clause 5 [1]:
> 5. When the software is altered to not use SixXS services, one is kindly
> asked to notify SixXS of this by sending an email to the SixXS Staff
> at info@sixxs.net, containing at least the following details:
> 8<--------
> Organisation : Organisation Name
> Email : mailbox@example.com
> Website : http://www.example.com
> is using software <Software Name> for:
> <
> description of:
> the usage
> the reason why it was modified
>
> -------->8
> Additional information details may of course be provided.
> We request this to be able to know why people would choose not to
> use the services provided by SixXS and the participating ISP's.
well, the "kindly asked" maybe means another thing to you. I don't see any
forbit or obligation. But the English is not my mother language, so probably
I'm wrong. If you don't want to sent a email, don't do it that's all.
About the DFSG [2], points 5 or 6:
5- No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups
The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.
6- No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a
specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from
being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.
Well, maybe we have understanded in a different way the "kindly asked", and
maybe you think that that people could say "we don't let you to you this
soft" because you are ... But I insist, I'm not an expert, and the people of
debian that do this things are the experts. Otherwise, I think that is more
problematic the point 4 of the license:
> 4. One should not remove any reference to, or logo of, SixXS.
because you cannot do anything you want, for example, changing the logo, but
the meaning should "is described in IETF's RFC 2119 / BCP 14." and I don't
know what is it.
> Note unless you've got some magical way to bypass the 'chinese dissent
> test', please don't respond.
with this "please don't respond" if you don't pass the chinese dissent test,
don't you think that you are not using the point 5 and 6 of the DFSG and you
are discriminating me about any comment to your mail? ;-)
Leo
[1] http://www.sixxs.net/tools/aiccu/LICENSE
[2] http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines
>
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