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Re: question about AMD64 HOWTO



Just wanted to point out that OOo, can be installed in a pure64 system
w/o the need of a 32bit chroot.  Only problems is a file conflict with
ia32-libs.  If your interested you can read here how to do it:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/04/msg00311.html

-John

On 4/21/05, Jonathan Kaye <jonathan.kaye@univie.ac.at> wrote:
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> En/La Thomas Steffen ha escrit, a 21/04/05 13:13:
> | On 4/21/05, Jonathan Kaye <jonathan.kaye@univie.ac.at> wrote:
> |
> |>Thanks for that. Yes, the more I read, the more it seems you can install
> |>amd64 onto an i386 system.
> |
> |
> | Yes, it assume that you already have an i386 system, and want to
> | install amd64. Although I am not 100% sure whether I would recommend
> | that approach. A clean new install on a separate partition certainly
> | has its advantages.
> 
> Yes, indeed. I've got sarge 3.6.8 running nicely.
> 
> |
> |>The next question is what becomes of the
> |>existing system?
> |
> |
> | That is up to you. You can keep the 64bit system a chroot, if you only
> | use it occasionally, and mainly stay with 32bits.
> |
> Ideally I'd like the 32 bit system to wither away. From what you say
> below, the only indispensable thing is Openoffice and I could run that
> from a chroot in a 64 bit system.
> | If you put the chroot on a separate partition, you can also boot it
> | directly, and then set up the old 32bit system as a chroot.
> |
> | Until all application actually work on 64bit, I would not delete the
> | 32bit system. I might still come handy at some point.
> |
> I agree with that. I have a 200Gb HD but with no partitions (aside from
> swap) so I have to look into virtual partitions that David was talking
> about.
> |
> |>Specifically, I don't see why the /home directory
> |>should be effected.
> |
> |
> | Yes, you definately want to share /home, just like /tmp, /proc and
> | maybe /mnt. If your home is a separate partition, then it straight
> | forward: just mount it in both places. If not, you have to use the
> | bind mount given in the HOWTO.
> Ok, I understand that, then ditto for /opt?
> |
> |
> |>It would be nice if someone with experience installing amd64 over a i386
> |>installation could chime in here. I've got a bunch of binaries in /opt
> |>but I'm aware of the issues (they either run in amd64 or a through them
> |>in chroot). Advice most welcome.
> |
> |
> | I copied my /opt, and most of it still works. But you also have to
> | keep at least the libraries from the 32bit system (/lib, /usr/lib,
> | /usrX11R6/lib and maybe some more places), and tell ld.so about their
> | new path. If you do that, it is recommended that you keep all of the
> | 32bit system, so that you can still use its administration tools (like
> | dpkg).
> I'm not clear about what the file system would look like if I keep the
> 32 bit system. I guess when I understand chroot better this will become
> clear.
> |
> | Also several applications still require 32bit libraries. Among these
> | are openoffice.org, the Flash plugin (which needs 32bit mozilla),
> | VMware, tcc and of course wine.
> As I said above OO is essential. I can live w/o flash until a 64bit
> version is available. VMware, tcc I don't use and I have tried wine and
> found it more trouble than it's worth.
> |
> | Thomas
> 
> Thanks Thomas,
> your posting is really helpful and greatly appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
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