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Re: PCI Video Card?



Hi Jay,

Is there any chance with a radeon 8500 agp?

I have one in another computer. I tried it much earlier in the year with no
success.

I bought it from the Crucial memory people.

Kind regards,

Peter Watkinson
peter.watkinson1@ntlworld.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Estabrook" <Jay.Estabrook@hp.com>
To: "Kelledin" <kelledin+DAXP@skarpsey.dyndns.org>
Cc: <debian-alpha@lists.debian.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: PCI Video Card?


> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 04:01:49PM -0600, Kelledin wrote:
> >
> > Currently I'm using a Radeon 7500 on my LX164.  It's a "mystery"
> > branding--maybe ATI, maybe PowerColor, maybe something else--but
> > it works.
>
> I've had good luck with:
>
> 1. ATI-branded 7500
> 2. VisionTek-branded XTACY 9100
>
> Stay away from the 7000 (VE?), as it has caused oroblems with the
> 4.3.0 driver, and is somewhat slow, especially when compared to the
> 7500 and 9100.
>
> > Matrox is also pretty good with 2D accel, but DRI and XVideo
> > don't work for Matrox PCI cards (at least not last time I knew).
> > Matrox DRI support doesn't work on Alpha, period.
>
> For 2D stuff, they work great, though not blazingly fast.
>
> > nVidia cards...hmmm.  Not great.  It's very difficult to find a
> > PCI nVidia card with any chipset faster than a TNT2.  Even then,
> > it's a bit of a crap shoot as to whether it will work with SRM.
> > XVideo might work, you might get some 2D accel, but you
> > definitely won't get DRI support.  I'd avoid nVidia for Alpha
> > systems.
>
> My sentiments also; a great many problems the with SRM consoles of
> older Alphas. On those that do work (LX/SX, Miata), the 2D speed is
> pretty good with the normal XFree86 "nv" driver, but there's no hope
> of 3D support.
>
> > I'm told 3Dfx PCI cards (Voodoo3 or later, mind you) work pretty
> > well.  I haven't heard much about them though.
>
> Yes, they do work quite well in 2D and 3D; even though they don't
> do "real" DRM, the 3D support is FAST, at least comparable to the
> newer Radeons when using a V3 3000. The older Banshee is also quite
> usable, though slower than the V3 cards. Note that the latest 4.3.0
> tdfx driver seems to demand more than 16MB of video RAM in order to
> run at greater than 1024x768 resolution, a rather severe limitation,
> IMHO, that the earlier 4.1.0 and 4.2.0 drivers don't share (IIRC).
>
> > Stay FAR AWAY from S3 cards.  A lot of Alpha systems ship with
> > these, but they're crap cards.  A given S3 card might not even
> > work at all for XFree86.
>
> This is (unfortunately) very true of the Trio64-based cards that were
> shipped in many Alphas. However, at least the Savage4-based boards
> (Diamond Stealth III 540, IIRC) did have a decent (2D) driver under
> 4.1.0 and later, and could hold as much as 32MB of memory, but no 3D
> support...
>
>  --Jay++
>
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