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Re: Build failures of 1.2.3 on Debian hppa, mips, mipsel, s390, m68k

On 14 July 2007 at 17:44, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
| On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 05:47:57PM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
| > On 14 July 2007 at 16:19, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
| > | Dirk, it is extremely rude of you to cc a closed list (devel@open-mpi.org)
| > | when posting to several open lists.  Please do not do this in future.
| > 
| > Disagree strongly. Closed/open is relative. I am a member of the
| > devel@open-mpi.org.  I am also a mailman admin for a few lists that I keep
| > closed on purpose due to the ever increasing pervasiveness of spamming.
| It's not relative.  Anyone not subscribed to devel@ gets a message
| telling them their posting is rejected.  Not just held for moderation
| but rejected.


I, as part of pkg-openmpi-maintainers, stand in the middle and have to talk
to upstream, as well as to my fellow porter DDs.  I need help from
both. Hence the initial mail.  This is obviously also a promise to further
mediate the information flow between all parties because, heck, that's what
package maintainers do.
Open MPI is an open forum. If you want to use the lists, subscribe.  Do NOT
mischaracterise them in public as closed or you will end looking like a
fool.  That it's rejected rather than held for moderation is just frank in my
book.  Better than a (potentially empty) promise for moderation that is not

If you're so enraged by this all, and have gobbles of free time to further
fill my inbox, may I suggest that offer to act as moderator for the list in
question.  Small concreate steps.

I don't own Open MPI so I can't change their mailing list policy. All I can
is to offer to help make the package better.  Your first email  helped in
that matter. The rest didn't exactly. 

| > If you have a beed with my use of the lists, talk to me in private rather
| > than grandstanding on four lists.
| I think it's important to let others know that they will also be treated
| rudely if they attempt to cross-post to the openmpi list.  I'll be happy
| to continue this conversation with you in private, if you wish, but have
| not done so in this mail to respond to your mischaracterisation of my
| actions as "grandstanding".

Well it was you who started the name calling, see above. I was unaware that
you thought you had a monopoly on the practice.


Hell, there are no rules here - we're trying to accomplish something. 
                                                  -- Thomas A. Edison

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