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Re: Creation of #debian-68k on irc.debian.org (OFTC)



On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 01:33:50AM +0200, Aurélien GÉRÔME wrote:

> I think you are all aware the m68k port can be dropped for etch
> if nothing is done to speed up m68k buildd network at least, but
> unfortunately, not at last. Though, I do not know for sure whether
> we still need kernels 2.2 and 2.4 for m68k: kernel 2.6 works well on
> my Quadra950 and on a friend's Quadra940AV. However, it seems there
> is some toolchain work needed from what I read on that list.

The 2.2 and 2.4 kernels are going to be dropped from etch -- spend the
time on 2.6. Amiga is mostly ready for primetime. Mac mostly isn't. None
of the other subarchs work at all as far as I know. So we'll move
forward based on amiga and maybe mac.

I hope to keep everything installing with d-i, but moving everything to
2.6 is the only long term strategy.

What exactly did you do to get the 950's working? I'd love to upgrade 
my buildds.

Whether or not m68k is a release candidate for etch depends largely on
whether or not we can get caught up and stay caught up.

Apparently that means we need more fast buildds and more porters.
We can certainly use people willing to work on the toolchain (we've had
bugs open for years), but perhaps even more important is that we need 
someone (or better, several people) managing the bugs for m68k gcc and
upstream. This means filing good bug reports, checking against various
compiler versions, and if you can program in c, maybe reducing test
cases, but really that's not as important. Management and knowing the
score with gcc is the key. Right now, that's killing us faster than
anything else.

Darn, I'm ranting again. ;-)

-- 
Stephen R. Marenka     If life's not fun, you're not doing it right!
<stephen@marenka.net>

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