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Re: penguin installer instructs out of sync

Heskett, Gene wrote:
> >>  MS> ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-m68k/cur
> >>  MS> rent/common/ has it in .tgz format. And that's what Frankys
> >>  MS> install guide says, right?
> >>
> >> To continue the story, I got that file, and it did go all the way thru
> >> the install, and I can run it from a copy of the penguin icon now.
> >>
> >> Unforch, as it went thru the install, no devices could be mounted even
> >> if they did show up in the menu's, like the amiga_ser, the amiga-lp, or
> >> even mfc card which did show up in the menu's.  Not having a suggested
> >> format for the initialization strings they apparently require, I wasn't
> >> able to set that up.  Because of that, I was unable to even try to call
> >> my ISP and begin to run dpkg.  I guess I'm too used to env:  files doing
> >> all that for me...  :(
> >Anyone with Amiga experience care to comment on that one? For me, it
> >seems the serial and protocol modules don't work for him. Seems
> >unlikeky ...
> Just a bit, but remember, this user's green paint isn't dry yet.

No sweat, I guessed that, but I'm nit fluent on Amiga particulars so 
someone else should have a look at that. And it's going to the right
debian-68k address now I hope :-)
> >> I will consider that I've got this running when I can use it for my
> >> email and news, compile something (like a new kernal with all this stuff
> >> in it) and generally do without crashing what I'm now doing (and
> >> crashing) with ados.
> >Download compiler, binutils and kernel source and build a kernel
> >without modules (or with new modules, and install those). 'download'
> >means fetch them under ados, store them on the AFFS partition and
> >copy them from there to the ext2 fs after booting Linux.
> The compiler and all that, but with a RH2.1.131 source tree is on an
> in-accessable (buddha card again) partition.

You'll have to get it to an accessible partition before you can build a 
kernel that can access that drive I guess.

> >> My standard ISP connection is dialup, uses dhcp, using Miami, and the
> >> hardware port is on the mfc-3, duart0:, "7wire" at 57600 baud, altho
> >> 115200 also works.
> >>
> >> Can someone suggest a suitable string for that?
> >Not me. Check out the docs in /usr/doc/ppp for some examples.
> I tried, couldn't seem to find a reader for .gz files, gziped it, and

gunzip -c <file> | more works for me. zcat | more should also work.

> ran vi to look at it, but this vi's syntax and the os9 version I'm used
> to don't have any common ground, so I wasn't able to quit it cleanly
> even with myself logged in as root and issueing a 'shutdown now' from
> another screen.

<esc>, :wq writes and exits from vi.

> I thought I'd unpack a mirror of the base to an ados partition were I
> could get at it with any one of a dozen readers/editors, but there is a
> doofy name in the kbd drawer, 2nd one in the list, and both untgz and
> tar -xvsf die at that point.  So I've only had a fleeting glance at the
> ppp doc page so far.  From root, or from usr/docs/ppp, 'man' doesn't
> seem to work, even if I type /bin/man.  I'm beginning to think the
> install is missing some step yet.

The manpages and man binary isn't installed with the base system. The
isn't missing something, it just installs enough to continue working

> If I re-structure the drive, given 800 megs to assign here and there,
> how big should the /root, /bin, /usr, and such really be?  I noted it
> did not want all the 200 megs of /swp when it was formatting that.

There should be estimates on that in the general (non arch-specific)
docs. More than 50 Mb / and 200 MB /usr is probably not necessary (but 
see for yourself how much a fullblown installation will take, it's in 
the base system somewhere in /root).
> Also, the remaining 200 megs on that drive I should be able to mount and
> see, but so far, thats also failed as /dev/sdb3 which is where it should
> mirror to, but during the install, it didn't give me an 'affs' choice
> for filesystems, so that went in that smokey hole too.

Should be a valid choice for the source file system (where base2_0.tgz
but not as a target (Linux) filesystem. But I've no Amiga, and haven't
built the Amiga boot floppies.
> Newbies, don't you just *love* them?  Don't answer that!

I usually have a dozen of those for lunch, why?


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