Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf orga/governance sessions at DC14

[tassia@acaia.ca]

Hello everybody,

First of all, thanks for all the support that followed the new chairs 
delegation and I'm sorry for my silence in the past week. I had to be 
AFK for personal reasons.

So I've tried to read the backlogs of this discussion and it is clear to 
me that there is a need to talk. Maybe not exactly in the format 
proposed by Madduck, but just having the space to talk seems pretty 
reasonable to me. Vorlon's concerns about the new delegation were 
followed by a call for discussion about debconf governance in DC14, 
which was accepted by the DPL with the expectation of debconf chairs 
participation. As a recently nominated chair, I don't feel very 
confortable to be *the* chair present in this discussion, so I'll talk 
in pvt with the others and see what we could do as a team.

I truly believe that even if this discussion is not scheduled, it will 
happen anyway in the hallways. And what we risk to have at the end is 
more noise than real improvement of the status quo. At the same time, I 
think that no perfect formula will come out from one 45-minute session. 
Maybe we could think of a series of meetings spread during the whole 
conference? Would we have energy for that?

Best regards and see you in Portland,

Tassia.


On 2014-08-18 17:09, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Moray Allan <moray@sermisy.org> [2014-08-18 22:33 +0200]:
> > When an event proposal is rejected by the talks committee then again
> > by the conference chairs, it might be useful for you to consider
> > listening to the reasons why before simply "self-scheduling" the 
> > events.
>
> Moray,
>
> I am not aware of any rejection "by the conference chairs". My
> pre-message to a bunch of people including all chairs was followed
> up only by Tincho (not speaking for all chairs), and I replied to
> him (and you) two days ago. Since then, I had a short, very abridged
> conversation with Tincho, wherein there was no rejection or
> objection — nor approval.
>
> I received no other reply from anyone.
>
> Regarding the talks team rejection, I respect that they couldn't
> allocate a slot to my event proposal for reasons, whatever they may
> be. But this does not mean I can't (shouldn't) organise it
> otherwise, does it?
>
> My motivation is to use our time at DebConf to approach complex and
> hard issues with the benefit of sitting in a room together.
>
> To date, I am not aware of any such efforts. I am certain there will
> be a myriad of bilateral discussions, but that's no different from
> last year, and we've not really advanced since then. Therefore
> I went ahead. If it fails, it fails, just like all previous attempts
> to rethink DebConf governance have failed.
>
> I am happy to scratch these sessions because the chairs have
> different plans, or to organise the sessions for you to lead, as
> I told Tincho.
>
> Hope this clarifies things…
>
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