Re: [Debconf-team] DC14: parallel activities for families with kids
Hello,
2013/8/22 Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>:
> On 08/22/2013 04:59 AM, Hector Oron wrote:
>> DebConf could provide information to gather that group and enable them
>> with space and tools to self-organize themselves.
>>
>> Not sure it counts as a global agreement, but I think we are pretty
>> much in-line. As an action for this thread to no evaporize I would
>> propose to set goals, and plan & schedule to accomplish those goals.
> BTW, from the other DebConfs:
>
> - "We are not a travel agency" (from this thread it seems that few people
> want a 100% organization and alternate activities for families) [NOTE:
> not-a-travel-agency is a global debconf rule, not only for families]
Not sure, what is the full meaning of that statement, could you please clarify?
Clearly, we are not a travel agency, we are a DebConf orga team.
> - Families requests and information happen at busy organizing time, when
> organizers have few time, so families need pass to second level.
That's easy one, families are not to be DebConf responsability.
Families should have some other contact point if they need some info
and DebConf orga teams can focus on their primary activities and
redirect family requests to the assigned resource (contact point
person).
> - some families have strange requests, they don't care about the answers and
> tend to do what they like (also if we say NO!). I don't know why, but this
> mostly happens with families and seldom with other attendees [accompanying
> person not used on Debian conduct??? Children take out all of attendee
> patience???]. [BTW it was mostly in DC12, also because DC13 was not very
> suited for children (but babies)]
DebConf should not have to deal with family requests.
I did see some kids around DC13, and I enjoyed to have them around.
During DC12, I hardly noticed.
> - Costs: there are strict rules about prices in venues, also for children in
> CH and I think also in US. Additionally, families are exceptions (so poor
> penta users) so usually the prices are not discussed with venues (also
> because "we are not a travel agency" we don't ask for special prices. Thus
> debconf costs are much higher than we prices we could ask to families.
We need DebConf local team to help out to find accomodation places for
families, families should probably have to find out the costs
themselves and do any required booking before-hand. The same applies
for food and travelling.
> For these reasons, I think that families issues should be handled by a
> special team (outside core team), who should have more time and resources
> (also during DebConf) than core team.
Agreed. That's what we aim to create here.
> [The above problem are only organizational problems, so they are simple to
> solve, but it take huge amount of time and patience. Organizers usually lack
> these resources during and before DebConf]
I am happy to be a resource for that purpose.
Cheers,
--
Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-.
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